Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario

[Paolo.Battista]

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A question - if the French photo is a genuine Leica release, and not a photoshopped fake produced for entertainment and to watch us all throw our toys out of the cot, why is it such a crappy picture?

 

Leica doesn't normally do such low res, sepia fundamentally awful pictures for its releases, does it?

 

Many forum members think about a fake. FF with fixed lens is one of the better bets in my opinion.

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[Guest]

Two versions, a 50 and a 28 summicron! I'd sell everything else!

Pete

 

Most of us here have said that before.

Every year.

Simon

[luigi bertolotti]

Thank you Luigi for giving me a task for the last 40 minutes. Without accomplishments .

Dad considered me a failure in high-school, me opting for English and French instead of Latin and Greek. ("If you only cared to find out with some determination how many of your clumsily put questions have been answered more than 2000 years ago")

So could you please help me? Two online translators, a fat book and two thin ones could not.

 

<Phedre> (over 2000 years ago)

 

"A big mountain was giving birth, with terrible moanings;

Great expectation were all over the world;

and it delivered a tiny mouse....

 

This is written to you, who anytime seem to promise great things,

end up with nothing"

[lct]

...I do regard the M240 as being the first, and so far only, full-frame mirrorless system camera...

This way M means mirrorless and not rangefinder any more. No wonder why we have a "mini M" having nothing to do with a rangefinder if Leica share this view. Not an end-of-life announcement for the rangefinder hopefully.

[Dr Owl]

A joke on irrrationality ?

abSurd?

 

(I'm a retired mathematician. Please ignore me. But Luigi is on form to-night.)

[colonel]

if it is a zoom X APS-C sensor it would be a very interesting camera IMHO

 

The only opposition would be the Canon G1x and it has a slightly smaller sensor and very slow focus and would be larger then the new Leica.

A pocket size APS-C zoom with very high quality is something I have been looking for.

 

If its all a fake, which it probably is, then we will see what we shall see on June 11th.

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<Phedre> (over 2000 years ago)

 

"A big mountain was giving birth, with terrible moanings;

Great expectation were all over the world;

and it delivered a tiny mouse....

 

This is written to you, who anytime seem to promise great things,

end up with nothing"

 

Oh, now I know whom Pfarrer Hesse was quoting in my youth! It was a standard saying in German of wise men back then. "Der Berg hat gekreisst und..."

Back to May 2013: received my "brand new" IIIg today from my trusted "man of few words" who has fixed the transport mechanism. And I'll be out tomorrow with a Porta 400 in it, regardless of the weather. There's sunshine built-in in such a construction being older than me.

[dwbell]

A pocket size APS-C zoom...

 

 

Clowns pockets?

 

[pop]

(over 2000 years ago)

 

Now you mention it, I clearly remember having read that as well. It does feel like 2000 years ago.

[250swb]

At the moment the 'Mini M' seems to be taking the 'best' from current ideas and from other manufacturers. But why, oh why, can't Leica get far ahead of the game with these things aimed at competing with Ricoh or Sony, or... well there are a lot. Just for once make it a defining camera, rather than the one year late 'Leica option'.

 

Steve

[colonel]

abSurd?

 

(I'm a retired mathematician. Please ignore me. But Luigi is on form to-night.)

 

"We have normality. I repeat, we have normality. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem."

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[jonoslack]

<Phedre> (over 2000 years ago)

 

"A big mountain was giving birth, with terrible moanings;

Great expectation were all over the world;

and it delivered a tiny mouse....

 

This is written to you, who anytime seem to promise great things,

end up with nothing"

 

Hah!

Google translate did rather well for once:

 

Mountain pregnant, groans immannes species

He was among the countries Massimo expectation

He gave birth to a mouse.

 

This it is written, YOU, who, with great threats

FREE nothing

 

But I am suitably ashamed at not knowing the reference.

[Paolo.Battista]

if it is a zoom X APS-C sensor it would be a very interesting camera IMHO

 

The only opposition would be the Canon G1x and it has a slightly smaller sensor and very slow focus and would be larger then the new Leica.

A pocket size APS-C zoom with very high quality is something I have been looking for.

 

If its all a fake, which it probably is, then we will see what we shall see on June 11th.

 

Ricoh GXR with aps-c zoom module. Real aps-c sensor size, faster and longer than the rumor, muuuuch more cheap than any

X.

[Guest willjanurgucken2000]

Thats a bit harsh..................you forgot Fuji!

 

It more that digital is such an ever and fast changing technology I dont mind investing in Leica lenses, it something that I have built over a long period and all have retained their value but I wont invest 8 grand in a camera that will be near worthless in a few years and outdated even by the time it hits the shelves.

 

I am already invested in M lenses and don't particularly want to exchange them.

 

Many anticipate a fullframe SONY camera, while Ricoh have already demonstrated interest in the M mount GXR.

 

The Fuji XPro has a 2.5mm AA filter over the front of the sensor, which means it doesn't play as nice with wider M lenses.

 

Yes it's possible to use M lenses on ASPC but kind of a waste given that you're throwing away half the image circle.

[bill]

No AA on the X-E1... It plays nice with Leica M, R and LTM glass...

And Zeiss...

And Nikon...

And Olympus...

And CV...

And...

 

It's a dream with the 40mm Summicron.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

Sent from another Galaxy

[LVSBB6]

Perhaps it will be the perfect R solution - DMR2

[jaapv]

Hah!

Google translate did rather well for once:

 

Mountain pregnant, groans immannes species

He was among the countries Massimo expectation

He gave birth to a mouse.

 

This it is written, YOU, who, with great threats

FREE nothing

 

But I am suitably ashamed at not knowing the reference.

Fabularum Aesoparum libri V, Volume 2. The original is rather more elaborate.

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[barjohn]

I am already invested in M lenses and don't particularly want to exchange them.

 

Many anticipate a fullframe SONY camera, while Ricoh have already demonstrated interest in the M mount GXR.

 

The Fuji XPro has a 2.5mm AA filter over the front of the sensor, which means it doesn't play as nice with wider M lenses.

 

Yes it's possible to use M lenses on ASPC but kind of a waste given that you're throwing away half the image circle.

 

The Fuji doesn't have an AA filter.

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[sfage]

No FF and EV?

 

I can't believe they'd do that... again.

[AlanG]

A question - if the French photo is a genuine Leica release, and not a photoshopped fake produced for entertainment and to watch us all throw our toys out of the cot, why is it such a crappy picture?

 

Leica doesn't normally do such low res, sepia fundamentally awful pictures for its releases, does it?

 

Leica is just now getting around to manufacturing the camera. They probably photographed it so long ago that the picture has faded.