dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1281 Posted June 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) And hopefully the wait time will be down for first delivery to those anxious 24 to mere months! Ha! They can expect them "part way through next year". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Hi dwbell, Take a look here Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1282 Posted June 6, 2013 To say the least.. Preparing the bottle Luigi? Yes , but there is still a 10% chance of APS-H... which to make the bet an honest one, could put YOU at the risk of 9 bottles... (or a 9x value SINGLE bottle... I will think of something special.... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1283 Posted June 6, 2013 Ha! They can expect them "part way through next year". Well here's how the forum reaction will pan out... If they're available ex-stock "They're not selling it's a flop, told you so". If they're not available ex-stock "Leica are a joke, I want to buy one of these and I can't". If, as looks to be the case, it's an X2 with a zoom, then I don't see the problem. If anyone is waiting for Leica to produce a camera that's _cheaper_ than the opposition they're in for a long wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1284 Posted June 6, 2013 Yes , but there is still a 10% chance of APS-H... which to make the bet an honest one, could put YOU at the risk of 9 bottles... (or a 9x value SINGLE bottle... I will think of something special.... ) Who said 9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1285 Posted June 6, 2013 If the rumours, which seem increasingly firm, are correct, an X2 with a slow, narrow range zoom and no built in VF, what a disappointment. It's hardly worth all the hoopla and a bit of a weak effort from Leica. It seems to me, other than a better sensor, it does less than my Sony R1 did in 2005, 9 years ago. It had an excellent Zeiss 24-105/f2.8-4.8 lens, a built in viewfinder and an APS -C sensor. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1286 Posted June 6, 2013 If the rumours, which seem increasingly firm, are correct, an X2 with a slow, narrow range zoom and no built in VF, what a disappointment. It's hardly worth all the hoopla and a bit of a weak effort from Leica. It seems to me, other than a better sensor, it does less than my Sony R1 did in 2005, 9 years ago. It had an excellent Zeiss 24-105/f2.8-4.8 lens, a built in viewfinder and an APS -C sensor. Wilson People! The "leak" is real, so need to speculate anymore. C U on 11th of June, blaming Leica not to fulfill the expectations they created. "Mini-M" :D laughing already... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1287 Posted June 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just posted on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=201753456643737&set=a.159392520879831.37878.159391727546577&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf As real as that photo looks, no camera manufacturer shows an equivalency factor on the zoom ring. The focal length is the focal length and that lens isnt not a 28 to 70 unless the camera is full frame. A Fuji 18mm is not labelled 27mm because of its 35mm equivalence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrad Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1288 Posted June 6, 2013 Leica has provided a brilliant marketing campaign...for the Sony RX1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1289 Posted June 6, 2013 Has it been taken down again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TW528 Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1290 Posted June 6, 2013 As real as that photo looks, no camera manufacturer shows an equivalency factor on the zoom ring. The focal length is the focal length and that lens isnt not a 28 to 70 unless the camera is full frame. A Fuji 18mm is not labelled 27mm because of its 35mm equivalence. Except Leica... They did on the Digilux 2 and this seems to be the flawed successor to it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205247-mini-m-merged-aka-x-vario/?do=findComment&comment=2341020'>More sharing options...
giordano Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1291 Posted June 6, 2013 As real as that photo looks, no camera manufacturer shows an equivalency factor on the zoom ring. The focal length is the focal length and that lens isnt not a 28 to 70 unless the camera is full frame. A Fuji 18mm is not labelled 27mm because of its 35mm equivalence. Please keep up. Earlier in this thread someone made exactly the same claim, and was promptly stomped on by everyone who owned a Digilux 2, whose 7.0-22.5mm lens had a zoom ring marked with the full-frame equivalent focal lengths (28-90). See e.g. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Digilux_2.jpg Also, at least some of the Ricoh P&S cameras display the FF-equivalent focal length on the LCD as you zoom, not the actual value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1292 Posted June 6, 2013 As real as that photo looks, no camera manufacturer shows an equivalency factor on the zoom ring. The focal length is the focal length and that lens isnt not a 28 to 70 unless the camera is full frame. A Fuji 18mm is not labelled 27mm because of its 35mm equivalence. Right... so (unless they want to revive the Digilux2 look) one of the three : 1) Is a FF (too little lens, I'd say) 2) Is a 42-105 equiv. APS (stupid range, I'd say... less stupid for APS-H... around a 35-90) 3) Is one more fake.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1293 Posted June 6, 2013 Leica has provided a brilliant marketing campaign...for the Sony RX1 I agree...as I said before if this was an RX1 with Leica badge folks would be head over heels about it. Maybe there is a red dot sticky for the RX1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1294 Posted June 6, 2013 ... no camera manufacturer shows an equivalency factor on the zoom ring. As a matter of fact, this is, and has been, perfectly common in digital compact cameras with a permanently built-in zoom lens, from many manufacturers, for more than a decade now. Funny how this discussion reminds me of all those hints and evidences which "clearly show" that the moon landing missions must have been faked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1295 Posted June 6, 2013 As a matter of fact, this is, and has been, perfectly common in digital compact cameras with a permanently built-in zoom lens, from many manufacturers, for more than a decade now. Funny how this discussion reminds me of all those hints and evidences which "clearly show" that the moon landing missions must have been faked Nah, that was Hassy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larzon Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1296 Posted June 6, 2013 Leica Singapore have just posted the following photo... It obviously got this zoom rocker at the shutter release button.. Next week will mark a new record in the most expensive regular compact camera ever sold .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1297 Posted June 6, 2013 Has it been taken down again? They took it off the Facebook page. Not wanting to ruin the suspense I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1298 Posted June 6, 2013 Please keep up. Earlier in this thread someone made exactly the same claim, and was promptly stomped on by everyone who owned a Digilux 2, whose 7.0-22.5mm lens had a zoom ring marked with the full-frame equivalent focal lengths (28-90). See e.g. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Digilux_2.jpg Also, at least some of the Ricoh P&S cameras display the FF-equivalent focal length on the LCD as you zoom, not the actual value. Keep up? Are you kidding, I cant say I have managed to go through all 1300 posts no. But the Digilux 2 is as pointed out. Many cameras from the past decade though? Please tell me what they are I've certainly never seen one. Equivalency on the LCD is one thing but the lens labelled that is something else. It is odd that Leica be the one to do it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglasf13 Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1299 Posted June 6, 2013 Keep up? Are you kidding, I cant say I have managed to go through all 1300 posts no. But the Digilux 2 is as pointed out. Many cameras from the past decade though? Please tell me what they are I've certainly never seen one. Equivalency on the LCD is one thing but the lens labelled that is something else. It is odd that Leica be the one to do it though. One that comes to mind, and is kind of in the same vein as the rumored Leica, is the Sony DSC-R1. The lens was labelled 14.3mm - 71.5mm on the front, but the zoom ring was labelled in fullframe equivalent terms: http://cdn.ubergizmo.com/photos/sonyr1_small.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 6, 2013 Share #1300 Posted June 6, 2013 This is all just mental masturbation, planed by Leica to take our minds off the excessive wait for our well overdue M(240)s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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