k-hawinkler Posted May 4, 2013 Share #21 Posted May 4, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I like the TE 135/4 so much I have several copies. One not only can use it on an M or Visoflex, but it's also a favorite Leitz lens on my Nikon D800E. Ken Rockwell made the correct recommendation for this lens. LEICA Lenses That's how I first learned about it when the M9 was introduced, me being new to Leica gear. The TE 135/4 is not only superb for landscape shots, but also for portraits. Here is an example shot with D800E. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/nature-wildlife/272579-hairy-woodpecker-female.html This was shot with D300. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/199288-dr-melvin-l-prueitt.html A landscape shot with M9. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/165871-bandelier.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 4, 2013 Posted May 4, 2013 Hi k-hawinkler, Take a look here 135 3.4 APO. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gpwhite Posted May 8, 2013 Share #22 Posted May 8, 2013 I'm also interested in this lens and was wondering if anyone's used it on the M 240, using EVF to focus (especially wide open). Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers, Edmond Hello Edmond, I have had my 135 APO a few years and shot on my M240 and rental MM. Although I find EVF with M240 to produce best results for 135, OVF was very satisfactory for 85 ZM Sonnar @ f2.8. That tells me that 135 remains difficult to focus accurately on M. Also, after many tests on M9 and M240, I really feel f/4.8 is minimum to get excellent results with 135 APO as the lens yields field curvature at wider openings. On MM with a 1.4x Leica magnifier, results at f/5.6 are excellent. But in my hands, shutter speed at 1/1000 or more seem necessary to achieve the fine detail the lens is capable of rendering. Black is not as crisp as Elmar wides, 50 APO or 85ZM, however... I put my lenses in this hierarchy for brilliance on both M240 and MM = 50 APO is unique Elmar wides and 85 ZM Sonnar are outstanding 35 FLE and 135 APO are very good Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoshawnuff Posted May 8, 2013 Share #23 Posted May 8, 2013 See the write-up by Ashwin Rao. That's not really a source to put much faith in...but I agree that the differences between the two aren't extreme under most circumstances. With more consistent and regular use the differences will definitely show in "real world shooting" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted May 8, 2013 Share #24 Posted May 8, 2013 Now I am the lucky owner of the Tele-Elmar 135, thanks to this site, where terrific captures with this lens were shown. It's about 5 times cheaper and has that classic smooth Leica bo-keh and for a lens from 1973 it is remarkably sharp. That one half stop more speed is negligible. Same here, I think the difference between the Tele-Elmar 135 and the newest APO lens is virtually indistinguishable in real world shooting, and the difference in maximum aperture is trivial. The older lens may, in fact, have somewhat better bokeh. Indeed, before the APO lens came out, people used to write the Tele-Elmar 135 lens was effectively an APO without being called so. Also the lens head of the Tele-Elmar 135 unscrews and can be used on the Visoflex. See the write-up by Ashwin Rao. The used price of of the Tele-Elmar 135 is abut 1/5th of that of a new APO lens. +1. Got the Tele-Elmar a couple of years ago as I couldn't justify the price difference for a focal length I don't use very often. And yes, there is also something more gentle in the way it renders compared to the APO. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted May 9, 2013 Share #25 Posted May 9, 2013 This was taken with my 135 APO and cropped. I was no more than 10 feet away and 1/125 @ f8 iso 500. Focusing is not an issue for me with this lens. Do not tell the wife, she would kill me for posting this. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203082-135-34-apo/?do=findComment&comment=2317326'>More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted May 9, 2013 Share #26 Posted May 9, 2013 Bill, That's a wonderful shot! I like it a lot. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted May 9, 2013 Share #27 Posted May 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Bill, That's a wonderful shot! I like it a lot. Thanks. Thank you, while I had some reservatons about buying a 135, I have found that I really like it a lot. I use a 1.4 magnifier. I might get brave and post a portriate of Ms. Alice and not just her hand. Of course she would kill me....if she knew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted May 9, 2013 Share #28 Posted May 9, 2013 I might get brave and post a portriate of Ms. Alice and not just her hand. Of course she would kill me....if she knew. Same here: I am allowed to take family pictures only on the basis of a solemn oath I had to take several years ago that no recognizable pictures would ever be posted anywhere on the web. I confess that I have allowed myself to interpret the term "recognizable" somewhat broadly in a couple of instances;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 10, 2013 Share #29 Posted May 10, 2013 I was tempted to get the 135 3.4 APO, but just found a mint condition 135 T-E f/4 E46 version. Looking forward to trying it out once it arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted May 11, 2013 Share #30 Posted May 11, 2013 Same here, I think the difference between the Tele-Elmar 135 and the newest APO lens is virtually indistinguishable in real world shooting, and the difference in maximum aperture is trivial. The older lens may, in fact, have somewhat better bokeh. Indeed, before the APO lens came out, people used to write the Tele-Elmar 135 lens was effectively an APO without being called so. Also the lens head of the Tele-Elmar 135 unscrews and can be used on the Visoflex. See the write-up by Ashwin Rao. The used price of of the Tele-Elmar 135 is abut 1/5th of that of a new APO lens. —Mitch/Paris Paris au rythme de Basquiat and Other Poems [download link for book project] absolutely. Save the money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted May 14, 2013 Share #31 Posted May 14, 2013 Have the t e 1967 vintage. Great lens. And for $500! Fabulous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted May 15, 2013 Share #32 Posted May 15, 2013 Queen of Bo-keh… (MM, F4.0, 1/125, ISO 1250) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/203082-135-34-apo/?do=findComment&comment=2322307'>More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted May 16, 2013 Share #33 Posted May 16, 2013 Thanks all for the feedback. Much appreciated. I've heard of some lag when using the EVF / Liveview. Can I get some thoughts on fast, moving photography using the 135mm and EVF? Cheers, Edmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 16, 2013 Share #34 Posted May 16, 2013 No problem with a tripod or steady hands if you focus on still subjects but otherwise the EVF is too jaggy due to the slow refresh rate of the camera presumably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted May 16, 2013 Share #35 Posted May 16, 2013 No problem with a tripod or steady hands if you focus on still subjects but otherwise the EVF is too jaggy due to the slow refresh rate of the camera presumably. I'm trying to see if I'll be able to use the M and 135mm in news situations and also calmer things like weddings. By the sounds of it, no is the answer. At the moment I'm using a DSLR to cover anything longer than a 90mm and wanted to see if the M could take care of things. Cheers, Edmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 16, 2013 Share #36 Posted May 16, 2013 No problem with a tripod or steady hands if you focus on still subjects but otherwise the EVF is too jaggy due to the slow refresh rate of the camera presumably. So use the RF.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmond_terakopian Posted May 16, 2013 Share #37 Posted May 16, 2013 So use the RF.... RF window, even with a magnifier is too small for me to shoot with, especially in moving situations (news etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 16, 2013 Share #38 Posted May 16, 2013 That's a solid argument. Obviously it depends on your style and the application you need it for. Personally I usually found it annoying but workable. And switching between RF for focussing and the EVF for framing is too elaborate, and less effective than an accessory 135 mm viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 17, 2013 Share #39 Posted May 17, 2013 The Elmarit 135/2.8 works fine with the RF if you're not put off by the bulk and the tunnel vision of the lens. It allows for shooting both eyes open with its 1.5x goggles but the LED lit framelines of the M240 do lose a lot of contrast due to the goggles of the lens covering the brightness sensor. In my limited experience, sticking a white tape to the back of the goggles suffices to fix the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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