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If Leica instead of offer non-sense upgrades to the M8 owners like sapphire crystal displays could offer a sensor upgrade to the D2 more than one will get it. I don't know about electronics so I wonder if it is impossible to replace it for a better one. Maybe a third party company?

 

The sensor in the D2/LC1 is completely integrated with the lens.

If you change the sensor, I'm afraid you also have to change the lens...

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When I look back over my Digilux 2 photos, I fall in love  with that camera all over again. There is certainly something to be said about the Leica photos....and for me...it's the softness of the high

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Should the sensor be replaced by different one, it would require complete new electronics around it, the sensitivity, its response to light, resolution, the algorithm you admire so much, the one that deliver the unique IQ.

What would be left , is the lens and outside shell.

It would not be economically feasible by my opinion.

One talented engineer year is certainly more thay 200k$.

Number of them with support would be needed.

Including all the support and all testing and approvals i might turn out to be quite few M$.

Should 10 000 cameras be refurbished, it would cost several $100's to do it.

It would be a risky venture.

Would you send your 42 in LCD TV to be refurbished for $700, taking a chance of getting back one that is 4 yr old and the total cost might exceed more than 1/2 the cost of new one, although (perhaps) delivering slightly better image?

From Leica point of view, would you spend one 1/2 yr of their most talented engineers time to do it?

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I suspect Leica doesn't want to leave the pro-sumer market

If the Digilux 3 was an unsuccesful model I am sure they will look at there range and bring a combination of the qualities of the Digilux 2, sensor/lens combo, and re-visit the digilux range.

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So does that mean that when D2's are sent back to have their sensors replaced under warranty, a whole new lens is installed??!

:rolleyes:

The sensor/lens is a combo.

You may replace the sensor by exactly the same one without further modification.

But, if you want to replace it with a different sensor (with different characteristics), then you certainly have to modify/replace the lens (plus about all the electronics...)

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Just my 2 cents to continue this thread... :)

 

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LC1 is one of the most fun cameras I ever used. I would not part with it for anything and I still occasionally used it for work. Here are a few of my favourite samples from Bosnia and from Saint John, Canada:

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I could go on forever. Get it, you will never regret it. I would buy a D2/LC1 with an upgraded sensor and a decent 400 ISO in a blink of an eye.

 

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I would buy a D2/LC1 with an upgraded sensor and a decent 400 ISO in a blink of an eye.

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Yes, so would I. Given the success of the DL2, it is difficult to understand why Leica does not come with an improved camera based on this concept.

Maybe at the Photokina?? :o:cool:

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I meant if Leica came out with a brand new D2/LC1 with a better sensor, but controls kept as they are. Unfortunately, it is not possible to simply 'upgrade' a sensor in the existing camera - but wouldn't that be sweet...

 

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Been a few comments above about how nice it would be to upgrade the D2/LC1, and of course some improvements (sensor) are not feasible from a cost standpoint.

But I wonder, a firmware upgrade seems to have added some functionality to the D3/L1 - so is something like that not possible for the D2? Even if Leica themselves won't consider it for 'a discontinued model' - what about a third party effort?

There are for example third party drivers available for Epson printers - are there not maybe some software wizards out there who could conjure up some unauthorized firmware magic?

Aye, but I know, you're all going to say if it were that simple...........

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The sensor in the D2/LC1 is completely integrated with the lens.

If you change the sensor, I'm afraid you also have to change the lens...

 

That explains why my lens looked completely new after I had my sensor replaced in june this year! All for free!

Furthermore the evf and LCD looks also extremely new to me now. So that should implicate that Leica has to exchange the viewing hardware (and software) too when replacing the sensor! Wow! I hope it will work forever now!

 

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I had an LC1, sold it, regretted it and bought a refurbished digilux 2 from popflash. It makes the process of photography beautiful. The results need control. This camera lives out the idea Sean Reid talks about, of sketching with charcoal rather than with a fine pencil. It isn't easy to live up to its potential, but when it happens ... ohh!

 

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That explains why my lens looked completely new after I had my sensor replaced in june this year! All for free!

 

As you can see clearly in the photo of my LC1 below, the sensor is actually attached to the lens with three T4 (or T5, I forget) screws. Under the screws are spacers and springs that serve to properly position the sensor and take up any slack in tolerances from unit-to-unit. The sensor can indeed be removed from the lens and replaced separately, and Panasonic lists the sensor for sale as a separate part at its online parts site.

 

I all know this for a fact because I've modified one of my cameras by removing the OEM hot filter that goes between the sensor and lens (the purplish piece of glass you see sitting on the right side of the camera) and replacing it with an IR-pass only filter to dedicate it to IR operation. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to write anything further about the conversion (the only tricky bit was cutting the glass for the filter and sizing it to its final dimensions) or post any of the photos I've shot with the camera setup this way, but it's working great so far and I will be taking it to the Grand Canyon with me on my upcoming photo outing, so I'm expecting to give it a thorough workout shortly.

 

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Lots of excellent D" shots so I'll a few of my old and new ones to keep the thread going.

 

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An ageing Bentley gently snoozing.

 

 

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Hello all, I am new to this forum.

 

About the Digilux 2, I purchased a refurbished one recently after some deliberation; and I was not disappointed.

 

I am very happy with the D2 and would also be interested in an updated version. :)

 

Here are some of my pictures I would like to share with you.

 

Only the "Bicycles" picture had been sharpened. All of them are Auto-contrasted.

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