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Sorry for the poor quality cellphone images.

 

Is this a copy, or a real Mii with the paint scrub off? It is brass, top,bottom and lens.

 

SN# on body is 3795 which seems low.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

chk

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Sorry for the poor quality cellphone images.

 

Is this a copy, or a real Mii with the paint scrub off? It is brass, top,bottom and lens.

 

SN# on body is 3795 which seems low.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

chk

 

Not the slightest doubt : It's an ugly fake based on a Russian (sorry : Soviet) camera. The funniest point is the engraving on the lens : Leitz Ernst instead of Ernst Leitz !

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Thanks all for the replies. It's neighbor's camera that he found in a flea market (red flag) in Heidelberg Ger , where he's from some years ago. I told him when I saw it that it was probably fake but wanted to get the experts from this forum to confirm.

 

Thanks again and Thank you Steve for the nice compliment.

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It's a Zorki 1d showing the characteristic black trim which extends to surround the lens mount. If the lens were removed it will have a triangular rf cam as opposed to the round Leica type. The viewfinder bezel on the front of the Zorki blends into the top plate whereas the Leica is discreet. Finally a common giveaway is that the four screws on the front are bare metal but would be black if it were a Leica.

 

I think the fake engraving on the lens says Leitz Elmar even though it is obviously an Industar-22.

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Not the slightest doubt : It's an ugly fake based on a Russian (sorry : Soviet) camera. The funniest point is the engraving on the lens : Leitz Ernst instead of Ernst Leitz !

Actually it says "Leitz Elmar":o but I agree it's definitely a copy. The aperture is adjusted using the brass(?) ring in the centre of the lens instead of the true Elmar's metal tang. The camera's definition and the angles on the top deck are all wrong too.

 

Pete.

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