Michael Geschlecht Posted September 11, 2012 Share #261 Posted September 11, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello Everybody, 35mm Alpas had an adapter that allowed a person to use Nikon SLR lenses on their cameras w/ automatic stop down. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Hi Michael Geschlecht, Take a look here The R solution - more details. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
mjh Posted September 11, 2012 Share #262 Posted September 11, 2012 There are enough to support Leitax and Stephen Gandy and his Leica to Canon adapters. Someone from Novoflex told me their adapter solutions reached break-even at 50 to 100 units sold. It is easy to be profitable with an adapter solution; justifying the R&D on a new R-compatible body is something completely different. Especially as an R body has ceased to be a lure to eventually sell more R lenses since no new R lenses are made and sold anymore. An true R body will never take M lenses. If you are talking about an EVIL viewfinder that can take both M and R lenses with the appropriate adapter, that is not a real R solution. You really think so? That’s too bad … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcentsale Posted September 12, 2012 Share #263 Posted September 12, 2012 Well I, for one, have just preordered an NEX-6 from B&H this morning. If the mythical "R-Solution" doesn't materialize, or is priced too high, at least I should have this by mid-November. A FF body would have been preferable, but this will make a serviceable replacement to my 4/3 Collection, since it has a larger sensor and will be fully compatible with 30 years of Alpha-mount lenses via an adapter. I think, in general, that Sony has combined everything they do right about electronics with everything Konica-Minolta did right about photography, and everything Zeiss does right about optics, all in a price range affordable to the masses. There's still more than ample time to reconsider should the rumors prove true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 12, 2012 Share #264 Posted September 12, 2012 Do you plan to use M wides on your Nex-6? I would be interested to see how it handles vignetting and color shifts with the latters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcentsale Posted September 12, 2012 Share #265 Posted September 12, 2012 R Lenses, my widest at present is 28mm. That being said, I've seen no vignetting on my E3 using that lens. At this point I'm feeling abandoned by both Oly and Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 12, 2012 Share #266 Posted September 12, 2012 I would not expect problems with a not-so-wide Elmarit-R 28 (at least the last version) on a crop body but 15mm, 21mm and even some 28mm M lenses are another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted September 12, 2012 Share #267 Posted September 12, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) After years of the 'no R DSLR' from Leica announcement and being basically and near totally bummed at how Leica gave up the R for the S, I have absolutely zero confidence that there will EVER be an 'R solution', they chose to spend their development money elsewhere....it's Leica's choice. Of course, it could be that the M10/live view would be suitable with an R adapter for or as a 'solution' but that would seem to be just as an aside to the fact and not as a planned feature. After all this time and as it has been pointed out quite accurately by many here, there are other DSLR's that can do an admirable job with adapted R glass. A Sony a99 with an increasing Zeiss designed lens line is becoming tempting - and my multi generation R glass carefully chosen for their 'visual patina' can be adapted as others have done. IF indeed there is no real solution next week it's absolutely time to move on along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 12, 2012 Share #268 Posted September 12, 2012 Or an as-is solution but EVFs will improve and i doubt we will have anything else full frame in a near future but i may be wrong naturally. I don't need full frame - but would prefer it- for my R lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 12, 2012 Share #269 Posted September 12, 2012 Don't you think we'll have it with the M10? The EVIL is another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 13, 2012 Share #270 Posted September 13, 2012 After years of the 'no R DSLR' from Leica announcement and being basically and near totally bummed at how Leica gave up the R for the S, I have absolutely zero confidence that there will EVER be an 'R solution', they chose to spend their development money elsewhere....it's Leica's choice. Of course, it could be that the M10/live view would be suitable with an R adapter for or as a 'solution' but that would seem to be just as an aside to the fact and not as a planned feature. After all this time and as it has been pointed out quite accurately by many here, there are other DSLR's that can do an admirable job with adapted R glass. Wait till next week. As for the Leica R, some say it was a failure, but it is still better then the S system because frankly In my view It's a disaster.......Lol. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 13, 2012 Share #271 Posted September 13, 2012 Ken - Other than being at the edge of the end of the R line, how is the S system a disaster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 14, 2012 Share #272 Posted September 14, 2012 Hello Stuart. This is what I see, and it's my personal view. For what it is, 1......It's an expensive and limited system, their lens range selection is poor compared to Leica R, Nikon and Canon. These new 35mm FF cameras that are being released must surely be biting into their sales. It's even effecting Leica M sales as I was told recently. Is Hassleblad getting worried about the MF, these 35mm FF sensors are producing terrific files, with their extensive lens selections and superior Digital technology that is available must be on Hassleblads owners minds. We all know that MF film had a clear advantage over the 35mm format, but with Digital thats not the case. The margin is getting closer all the time for the fraction of the price you pay for a MF camera. We are always told that Solms withdrew the Leica R because of the stiff competition from Canon and Nikon. However Leica M was different because it didn't have any competition, well look again, Fuji, Sony, and Ricoh GX1. Last week I was told that Hassleblad will be releasing a smaller format possible 35mm body built in Sweden and the Lenses provided by Fuji, So it makes you wonder on the future of the MF. Is Hassleblad looking at another system to prop up their MF....? With so many Leica R owners out there did Solms have any hesitation about abandoning the R system. Not likely, so what are the propects of their S system. This is no longer a game of pride, but reality in this cut throat Digital world. These are some of the issues that concern me on the Leica S system. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 14, 2012 Share #273 Posted September 14, 2012 ... However Leica M was different because it didn't have any competition, well look again, Fuji, Sony, and Ricoh GX1. ... Apologies for dragging the thread off topic for a second but since you mentioned it, none of the manufacturers above have been able to compete with a full frame digital rangefinder and even some of the cropped sensors struggle with wide angle lenses. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 14, 2012 Share #274 Posted September 14, 2012 Keep your nerve Leica Rumors we could be heading for a big surprise by Monday evening. Rumour states new R adapter for forthcoming M camera - it could be plain R-M extension tube but than again it could be bit more than that, my long R lenses will welcome that very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 14, 2012 Share #275 Posted September 14, 2012 Apologies for dragging the thread off topic for a second but since you mentioned it, none of the manufacturers above have been able to compete with a full frame digital rangefinder and even some of the cropped sensors struggle with wide angle lenses. Pete. Thats true Pete. However these campanies still offer an alternative to Leica's full frame. How many Leica M owners have bought these Pocket cameras, (I am not one of them) instead of the M8/9. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_thomsen Posted September 14, 2012 Share #276 Posted September 14, 2012 Apologies for dragging the thread off topic for a second but since you mentioned it, none of the manufacturers above have been able to compete with a full frame digital rangefinder and even some of the cropped sensors struggle with wide angle lenses. Pete. i don't think they want to compete with such an poor (high ISO) and outdated sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2012 Share #277 Posted September 14, 2012 I agree - especially if they look at the prints.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 14, 2012 Share #278 Posted September 14, 2012 I agree - especially if they look at the prints.... Prints oh YES, but even web reduced image can tell the difference. I was looking at D600 samples this morning, all good stuff but missing the punch from M or R lens on any sensor really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 14, 2012 Share #279 Posted September 14, 2012 i don't think they want to compete with such an poor (high ISO) and outdated sensor. I don't think it's a case of "want to" but rather "cannot". Without offset microlenses there is no true competition for full frame or wide angle on APS-C. ... but let's get back on topic. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 14, 2012 Share #280 Posted September 14, 2012 Prints oh YES, but even web reduced image can tell the difference. I was looking at D600 samples this morning, all good stuff but missing the punch from M or R lens on any sensor really. How True Mladen. Few weeks back I was with a group of friends doing some Photography, I had the cheapest Model Canon 600D but the best glass 28-90 they had the 7D, 50D and the 40D, after the shoot out we compared our images. They where astonished by the quality on the Leica R lens, as one said, I've heard about it but didn't beleive it untill I saw it in my own eyes. Hopefully next Monday all will be revealed. One body, two systems Leica R & M Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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