willeica Posted March 6, 2020 Share #12821 Posted March 6, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 hours ago, John Z. Goriup said: I looked up 1950s buicks in some ancient books on American cars I still have laying about and as a result I am amending my original guess of a '57 to a 1958 Buick, the year in which I think the chrome content of General Motors cars exceeded the weight of all other materials in their products. JZG 1958 is correct. And the bit between Buick and Super? William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Z. Goriup Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12822 Posted March 7, 2020 Thank you, William...........my next 'mystery car' is one I fell in love with when I first saw it. For this post I have removed the radiator badge and marque logo. Make, model and year ( approximate ) please. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3926384'>More sharing options...
hektor Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12823 Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, John Z. Goriup said: Thank you, William...........my next 'mystery car' is one I fell in love with when I first saw it. For this post I have removed the radiator badge and marque logo. Make, model and year ( approximate ) please. JZG John, that is too easy. 1938 Horch 853, Erdmann and Rossi body at PB in 2016 Edited March 7, 2020 by hektor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12824 Posted March 7, 2020 4 hours ago, John Z. Goriup said: Thank you, William...........my next 'mystery car' is one I fell in love with when I first saw it. For this post I have removed the radiator badge and marque logo. Make, model and year ( approximate ) please. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You have still not given me the full title of the Buick. I will post it in about an hour. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12825 Posted March 7, 2020 The car was a 1958 Buick Riviera Super, although I would have accepted Buick Special Super as it it was nearly identical, the main visual difference being the indents on the corners of the rear bumper. It was not for nothing that the car was christened 'The Queen of Chrome', as it had the most chrome of any US car at that time, and Wilson did indeed drop a hint in that direction. The colour here is Spray Green. The 58 KK on the registration plate back has nothing to do with the Klan, but it means that the car was first registered in County Kilkenny in Ireland in 1958. The covered external spare wheel seems to have been a rare accessory. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Over to John who has already put his foot on the accelerator. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Over to John who has already put his foot on the accelerator. William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3926469'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12826 Posted March 7, 2020 Sorry I jumped the gun on the Buick - in any event, Hektor got it right. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3926658'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12827 Posted March 7, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) On the Buick: what was the purpose of this odd construction at the back? Must be pretty difficult to access the trunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12828 Posted March 7, 2020 Yes that detail had me stumped as well. I must confess that I would have guessed “Riviera” as the missing name - but only because that’s the only one I can recall.... I was similarly intrigued by the whole notion of the rear “deck” instead of the simpler/more common rear spare housing) so did a bit of research and that particular detail doesn’t seem to feature in the options list for the any of the 58 Super models as far as I could find to date (some build catalogs etc are online). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12829 Posted March 7, 2020 Also given the fact that on those models the jacking point is on the bumper (!) I would have been a bit wary changing a rear wheel 😬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12830 Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Could it be that this is an additional fuel tank? This looks like a tank cap in the middle of the bumper. Edited March 7, 2020 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12831 Posted March 7, 2020 American designers seem to love hiding fuel fillers in odd places. In various hire or borrowed cars I have had in the USA over the years, I have sometimes really struggled to find where to put in gas and have had to ask for help. On one, an old Thunderbird, you had to unscrew one of the rear reflectors and on another, a Chevvy Caprice, you pressed a concealed button under the front seat and the rear licence plate dropped down. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12832 Posted March 7, 2020 As to matters Horch, here is another easy one with an interesting provenance. The car was a gift from Adolf Hitler to Sven Julin-Dahnfelt, the Swedish military attaché in Berlin at the time. Julin-Dahnfelt took the Horch back to Sweden and after the war gifted it to his nephew. In the early sixties said nephew drove the car to India, via Afghanistan and the Khyber Pass (I have pictures of the trip) and from India by ship to Australia where during a Brisbane flood the car was completely submerged. As you can see it was finally restored: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3927009'>More sharing options...
hektor Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12833 Posted March 7, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3927013'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 7, 2020 Share #12834 Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, a.j.z said: Could it be that this is an additional fuel tank? This looks like a tank cap in the middle of the bumper. A friend who has classic cars, and brings them to shows, knows some of the classic car people in Kilkenny Motor Club. I will see if he can get me the contact details of the owner of this car. I have looked at photos of the 1958 Buick range, particularly the Rivieras and the Specials, but I have not seen one with as extensive a rear deck as this one, nor have I seen one with the spare wheel enclosure. I have seen this car at a few shows and the first thing that strikes one is the massive extension at the rear and that is the view from which to photograph the car. I suspect that the little lid over the number plate is the fuel cap. It definitely is the 'Queen of Chrome'. The car is left hand drive and has two front wing mounted spotlights. William 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 8, 2020 Share #12835 Posted March 8, 2020 This strange design conceit was called a "continental kit," referencing what some North Americans thought would add a European sophistication to one's car. The hidden fuel caps Wilson references were very common from about 1957 through about 1962, most commonly on cars from General Motors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 9, 2020 Share #12836 Posted March 9, 2020 Haha, on the other hand in Europe this car style was called American Baroque 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted March 9, 2020 Share #12837 Posted March 9, 2020 I have taken the opportunity to trawl through lots of buick specs/build docs and promotional literature and info on the "continental kit" (s) is very hard to come by. There is another '58 version with the external spare wheel housing but an extended fender with 45degree angled sides but no flat "deck" section. It looks equally odd but perhaps less strange than Kilkenny car pictured. I will try to find a link somewhere... I wonder if this option was somehow a special "dealer request" option rather than a book one - like some of the rarer items from a certain camera company we know? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 9, 2020 Share #12838 Posted March 9, 2020 Back to Hektor. From North America? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted March 9, 2020 Share #12839 Posted March 9, 2020 Yes Stu, from North America. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted March 9, 2020 Share #12840 Posted March 9, 2020 Mid 1930s Cord maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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