wlaidlaw Posted April 5, 2020 Share #12901 Posted April 5, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, a.j.z said: Volvo? PV444? Remember partially British. The only Volvo that could apply to would be the P1800, assembled by Jensen in West Bromwich but no Volvo connection. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted April 5, 2020 Share #12902 Posted April 5, 2020 To give you some more hints: As well as this special version, this car was also produced as a two door saloon and an estate car. It was very quick for its era. My father had thought of ordering one in 1948 but in the end decided against it, due to the saloon only being two doors and ordered a new AC 2 litre alloy bodied 4 door saloon instead, which proved to be very unreliable and in the cold weather of the north of Scotland, a very poor cold starter. He was obviously a glutton for punishment as the AC saloon was quickly followed by a Slough built Citroen light fifteen with the factory option of a Connaught cylinder head and twin carburettors. The increased power proved too much for the front drive shafts, which regularly had to have their joints replaced. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted April 6, 2020 Share #12903 Posted April 6, 2020 Dear Wilson, does the particular car have a coach-built body? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaman Posted April 6, 2020 Share #12904 Posted April 6, 2020 Maybe a Connaught with an Italian Body! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 6, 2020 Share #12905 Posted April 6, 2020 Yes this has a coachbuilt body but in reality the regular versions of this quite low volume car had alloy British coachbuilt bodies as well. This one is bodied by a non-British coachbuilder, as a short production run. My father looked at the saloon due to the aluminium/alloy body. Due to British "export or die rules" in the late 1940's, you had to get a special permit to buy a steel bodied car but this was not needed for aluminium bodied cars. Aluminium was in plentiful supply due to scrappage of WW2 aircraft. That is why he ended up with a new alloy bodied AC 2 litre saloon. The issuance of the steel body car purchase permits was a very corrupt process and my father declined to get involved. Not a Connaught nor an Italian body. At the time the puzzle car was built, Connaught was only making competition cars, Lea Francis based race engines and supplying tuning equipment. The only semi road cars they were "making" were highly modified Lea Francis 14 and 18 HP sports cars. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted April 6, 2020 Share #12906 Posted April 6, 2020 I think by chance this very interesting/rare car might be one that is actually currently for sale - by a vendor whose Astons I was “lockdown-perusing”.... Would the estate versions you mentioned usually be rather “woody” and is there a Swiss connection? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 6, 2020 Share #12907 Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Everyone and his uncle has had this car for sale for the last few years but at the asking price, it is never going to get any takers. Yes the estate was woody and there is a Swiss connection. It has been on one classic car ralliy I have been on but was giving a fair bit of trouble. I don't know for sure but I suspect its restoration was more cosmetic than mechanical. It never fails to amaze me how badly some folks prepare their cars, then ship them out to a rally in the far east and are surprised when they break down. When we show folks the extent of the modifications on our rough road rally Pagoda Mercedes 280SL (an ex-works Safari rally car) to make it as near bullet proof reliable as we can get it and the amount of spare parts we carry, they tend to be somewhat taken aback. We carry things like a spare drive shaft, prop shaft universal joints, steering ball joints, wheel bearings, spare cartridge for the huge fuel filter, fuel pump, one spare injector, a couple of tyre inner tubes, gasket set, gearbox oil seals and so on. Wilson Edited April 6, 2020 by wlaidlaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 7, 2020 Share #12908 Posted April 7, 2020 Nigel obviously knows what the car is so I will give it to him. It is a Healey (the same Healey as the Austin-Healey) Elliot Coupé with the body by the Swiss Coachbuilder Beutler. They made a short run of 6 of these special bodied cars. They were very expensive new. The Elliot used a lightly modified version of the 2.4L 4 cylinder Riley engine and even the standard saloon was capable of nearly 110 MPH. Until the advent of the even more expensive R Type Bentley Continental, this was the fastest closed car you could get in the UK. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3948830'>More sharing options...
NigelG Posted April 7, 2020 Share #12909 Posted April 7, 2020 https://www.classicmobilia.com/showroom/8128218-healey-beutler/ I’d say it’s the same example judging by the Goodwood decal in the rear window and the Eggbergrennan 2008 sticker. Offered for a mere 500K...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 7, 2020 Share #12910 Posted April 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, NigelG said: https://www.classicmobilia.com/showroom/8128218-healey-beutler/ I’d say it’s the same example judging by the Goodwood decal in the rear window and the Eggbergrennan 2008 sticker. Offered for a mere 500K...... About four to five times what it is worth, even with the Mille Miglia history! The last time I saw it running, it was on the 2009 Coupe des Alpes, I seem to remember it was Swiss registered. I had a look through my photos of that event but I seemed to have missed it. I don't think it was on the 2010 Coupe des Alpes, which I also did. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 11, 2020 Share #12911 Posted April 11, 2020 Since Nigel is trapped 5 or 6 time zones from his files of cars, who would like to step in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 14, 2020 Share #12912 Posted April 14, 2020 Nigel - Since you get to see interesting cars parked outside, perhaps you can capture one when you run out for groceries? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 16, 2020 Share #12913 Posted April 16, 2020 Who would like to step in for Nigel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted April 16, 2020 Share #12914 Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 11:31 AM, stuny said: Nigel - Since you get to see interesting cars parked outside, perhaps you can capture one when you run out for groceries? Hi Stuart - yes that’s the plan. Called into my local garagistas (designated as key workers though seemed to be hard at work on a lightweight(?) E-type) to discuss possible hub bearing issues on the NSF wheel of my Bristol but didn’t have a camera with me. I’ll be heading back early next week so will see what I can find. Not so many interesting things streetparked here in the Cotswolds as there are a lot of people with “Car rooms”.....and we’re only supposed to go out for essential journeys. That said I’m not the only one heading out for groceries in something a little bit different (there’s no guidance on which car to use - yet) 😀 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 20, 2020 Share #12915 Posted April 20, 2020 Let's keep it going. This might be obscure enough that a non-cropped image (with only the writing on the plate hidden) will be fine. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3957358'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 20, 2020 Share #12916 Posted April 20, 2020 We will be zipping past these on the London to Brighton on our latest acquisition, a 24HP/4 cylinder 1903 Darracq. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 20, 2020 Share #12917 Posted April 20, 2020 Wilson. The year is spot-on, but the marque is incorrect. 1901 was the first year this car was sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted April 20, 2020 Share #12918 Posted April 20, 2020 "Curved Dash" Oldsmobile ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 20, 2020 Share #12919 Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, stuny said: Wilson. The year is spot-on, but the marque is incorrect. 1901 was the first year this car was sold. Stuart I was intimating that with just a single cylinder 4 HP engine in the CDO, we will be overtaking them in our 24 HP Darracq. The CDO's seem quite reliable if with quite modest performance. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 20, 2020 Share #12920 Posted April 20, 2020 Hector got it - The first mass produced auto in the world. They produced about 450 in '01, and got up to around 3,000 by '03 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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