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I just acquired second hand via Abebooks, a later version of the Nick Georgano's Complete Encyclopaedia of the Motor car, a 1968 folio edition with lots of colour and black and white images. I think this was the last single volume edition until it was reissued by the National Beaulieu Motor Museum and Routledge in three volumes (two covering car marques and one for coachbuilders) in 2001. Good condition used sets of the 3 volumes fetch an eye-watering price of over £600. My previous quarto edition is from 1957 and all in black and white with very few images. The 1968 edition does mention the Kelsey, under the heading Motorette but no image. 

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Very impressive, Ronald.  Your turn.  It had a 0.7-liter engine pumping out 15 hp.

BTW:  This is in the Simeone Foundation Auto Museum (https://simeonemuseum.org/) in Philadelphia, and a must stop for anyone who participates in this thread and is coming to Philadelphia

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And here the next one. I want to know the coachbuilder who built THIS car. You can start with the brand and model and then the coachbuilder of exactely THIS car.

 

 

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16 hours ago, stuny said:

BTW:  This is in the Simeone Foundation Auto Museum (https://simeonemuseum.org/) in Philadelphia, and a must stop for anyone who participates in this thread and is coming to Philadelphia

Used to run in to Philly on a regular basis (with W> African crude) when I was with Chevron.  Tied up alongside overlooking the airfield.  Didn't know about a museum back then (late 80s).

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As a rough guess?

It looks like it might be the 'V1' experimental saloon-bodied prototype which was coachbuilt by Reutter. I could be wrong but I don't believe the V2 Cabrio version with bodywork by Drauz still exists(?) and, similarly, I can't tell from the carefully-cropped photographs whether the bonnet has one centrally-mounted knob or the two which were a feature of the three Daimler-Benz built VW3 cars.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb adan:

I'll guess the brand and model are "Volkswagen" and "Type 1," a.k.a "Beetle" a.k.a "Bug" - 1.1L

No clue (yet) as to who turned a "Beetle" into a "Frog." ;)

Hmmmh. The riddle seems to be easy but is not. Something is correct here, something not.

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vor 17 Minuten schrieb pippy:

As a rough guess?

It looks like it might be the 'V1' experimental saloon-bodied prototype which was coachbuilt by Reutter. I could be wrong but I don't believe the V2 Cabrio version with bodywork by Drauz still exists(?) and, similarly, I can't tell from the carefully-cropped photographs whether the bonnet has one centrally-mounted knob or the two which were a feature of the three Daimler-Benz built VW3 cars.

Philip.

Philip, you are getting very close to the car. It is not the cabrio.

You have to sort some things and then you have the car. After that we proceed who built it (the shown car physical).

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So here the full car in color. Is it an original or a recreation and if so, who built it?

 

 

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vor 46 Minuten schrieb wlaidlaw:

Tatra V750 by Hans Ledwinka? 

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Not directely. Massively influenced by it with some ideas of Josef Ganz „Maikäfer“. Tatra got 1 Million DM in the 1960s for copying their idea.

I’ll shorten this as I still need a coachbuilders name.

Volkswagen was correct although I‘m not sure it was a maker’s name that early. This is a prototype which should be named after the engineering company which made it. Porsche type (E) 60.

The later series cars had the makers name „KdF-Wagen“ not Volkswagen although today Volkswagen is used for it. „Volkswagen V3“ is the most common name today.

Three cars of the first pre-pre-series were made for tests of the concept. The first two mixed wood/steel, number 3 fully steel.

This is the recreation of the fully steel car #3 which technically shows some advanced details of the later pre-series „30“ made at Daimler Benz.

What I want to know and what let’s Google possibly glow is the name of the coachbuilder who made this recreation for VW.

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Ronald,

I am going to guess that Reutter of Stuttgart (now Recaro) might be the coachbuilder. I still think they make wonderful seats. I have them in my 1977 911 RSR, as they were the only FIA approved seats with adjustable angle backs. I believe they also made the 14 way seats in my Panamera. If my back with degenerative scoliosis after past trauma, is playing up, there is nothing that settles it quicker than a drive in my Panamera. 

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Reutter may have made the original for Porsche, Wilson. My question is: Who made the recreation?

While Daimler-Benz made the later pre-production series of 30 cars (known as „30“) the three pre-pres (V1, V2, V3) were made elsewhere with and for Porsche, only repaired at Daimler like after the several accidents V1 had during testing.

Reutter is quite possible as coachbuilder as they worked with Porsche and maybe Drauz for the prototype V2 cabriolet (haven‘t checked that, Philip seems to know more).

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