wlaidlaw Posted December 20, 2019 Share #12661  Posted December 20, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 hours ago, John Z. Goriup said: I'll hazard a guess that we're looking at a 1934 FIAT 508 Balilla - although the 'centerlock' whees are a bit puzzling...........wonder if that particular car was built outside of Torino in another European country under license. JZG Correct John. It could be a Simca assembled model but the one of those I have seen had a Simca badge on the grille. I suspect those are just Peugeot hub caps. They were also assembled in Czechoslovakia, Spain and South America. The car was the first major design by Dante Giacosa, who later designed the Topolino and the 500 Cinquecento. Compared to say a dreary Austin 10 or Morris 10, they are surprisingly nice to drive and the open sports version is a little gem, more like a Riley 9. Your turn. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Z. Goriup Posted December 21, 2019 Share #12662  Posted December 21, 2019 Thank yopu, Wilson. The next one is the only automobile I know of that uses actual NASA lunar-module grade 24 karat gold foil to insulate the engine compartment to prevent paint blistering. Maker & model, please. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3876851'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 21, 2019 Share #12663  Posted December 21, 2019 I know what this car is, as we briefly had one taken as a part exchange. Sold it before we had a serious accident. A very flawed car. Everyone I know who has owned one has had at least one accident in it.  Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 23, 2019 Share #12664 Â Posted December 23, 2019 McLaren F1 @Wilson: Is there a car that you did not drive? Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted December 23, 2019 Share #12665  Posted December 23, 2019 Correct, a.j.z. ..............your turn. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3878309'>More sharing options...
hektor Posted December 23, 2019 Share #12666  Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) On 12/21/2019 at 6:58 PM, wlaidlaw said: I know what this car is, as we briefly had one taken as a part exchange. Sold it before we had a serious accident. A very flawed car. Everyone I know who has owned one has had at least one accident in it.  Wilson Wilson, tell us more please. I was aware of the accident rate, even among competent drivers; but please explain why for those of us who will never experience a McLaren F1. There is only one in this country that I know of, and it is never driven. Edited December 23, 2019 by hektor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 23, 2019 Share #12667  Posted December 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks, John! This is the next riddle  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3878481'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 24, 2019 Share #12668  Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 12:06 PM, a.j.z said: McLaren F1 @Wilson: Is there a car that you did not drive?  Andreas, My brother at one time had a huge collection of race, classic GT, vintage, veteran and historic cars. I visit him quite often and get to drive these cars. He has now sold off all the race cars (Ferrari’s 250GTO, 250LM, 312PB Sports Prototype, Jaguars, C & D types and Maseratis, 6CM-GP car, 250S Sports Racer & Tipo 61 Birdcage plus various Porsche’s, Chevrons and Lolas), as both he and I have surrendered our race licenses for health reasons. He has cut down the other vehicles to just those he really enjoys driving. Of my own, I have a Panamera Hybrid, a 1977 3.3L Porsche 911RSR group B rally car and a Garage 56 tuned Morgan modern Three Wheeler.  Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 24, 2019 Share #12669  Posted December 24, 2019 20 hours ago, hektor said: Wilson, tell us more please. I was aware of the accident rate, even among competent drivers; but please explain why for those of us who will never experience a McLaren F1. There is only one in this country that I know of, and it is never driven. Hektor, I feel the problem with the F1 is exactly the same as the Ferrari 250LM. The centre of mass is quite high at the rear combined with a low roll centre. This tends to lead to very rapid onset of roll oversteer when the lateral G reaches a certain (high) point. The very lightly loaded front tyres cannot exert sufficient leverage to overcome the pendulum effect of the high rear polar moment of inertia, to recover the incident, so that an oversteer event rapidly turns into an irrecoverable spin. Both the 250LM and F1 were very much optimised for max speed. Over the last 50 years, a huge amount of brain power and experience has gone into curing this effect on 911 Porsches with clever geometry, over-run locking differentials and latterly, clever electronics. My much modified from original 911RSR, has zero lift off oversteer. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted December 24, 2019 Share #12670 Â Posted December 24, 2019 Thank-you Wilson. With the 250LM I imagine it was the early days of Mike Parkes, Ferrari, rear IRS and mid engine, but there is no excuse for McLaren. Wishing you and all our Forum friends a very happy Christmas. Hektor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted December 25, 2019 Share #12671  Posted December 25, 2019 When I visited my local MOT specialist last week they had tested an F1 with 900miles total on the clock which seemed a little sad IMHO....but maybe it’s the only un-pranged one left! Re the photo - is it maybe an Allard ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 25, 2019 Share #12672 Â Posted December 25, 2019 No Allard, Nigel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted December 26, 2019 Share #12673  Posted December 26, 2019 It seems to be of a similar vintage as Allard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 26, 2019 Share #12674  Posted December 26, 2019 Yes, they were out of business at around the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted December 27, 2019 Share #12675 Â Posted December 27, 2019 Might that be a Cisitalia 202 Coupe..........? JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 27, 2019 Share #12676 Â Posted December 27, 2019 No Cisitalia and no coupe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 27, 2019 Share #12677  Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Only about thirty have been built. Edited December 27, 2019 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 1, 2020 Share #12678  Posted January 1, 2020 Here is a further piece of the puzzle  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3882893'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 1, 2020 Share #12679 Â Posted January 1, 2020 HWM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 1, 2020 Share #12680  Posted January 1, 2020 No, as it is pretty rare it is maybe difficult enough , if I show the whole car  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3883070'>More sharing options...
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