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I haven't got my CL yet, but not being technically savvy, I know I will be asking: How do I do this? How do I do that? I don't think I'll be alone. I am sure that fellow CL'ers will chip in with solutions. Ask away. I hope the moderator will pin this thread.

I just received the very nice Korean-made LIM Thumb Grip for the CL, which appears to look identical to the Leica-branded CL Thumb Grip, and, is priced ⅓ less. Good enough for me. Color perfectly matches the CL, fit is excellent, and gives some added thumb support to hold the CL with more stability. Highly recommended.

Hi guys, I wanted to add a CL to my Leica SL (to have a second body) Have you tried the SL lenses on the CL? How they work? (image quality, autofocus, etc.) I have 50SL and 90SL... Thanks in advance!

I have had an M10 for over a year and recently purchased a CL as a backup. I love the CL but why oh why couldn't they put the 'Play' button in the middle like on the M10? Every time I want to view an image I press the 'Function' instead of 'Play'! I'd disable the function button completely if I could. Ok, I'll calm down now. Great little camera though!

Just curious... Have any of you had an SL... got tired of the weight of the SL glass, and have now gone CL completely?? I had both a Q and SL... with a ton of SL glass. I recently traded my Q for a CL 18mm KIt + some cash. I then added a 23. I just sold some of my SL glass... the 90-280 and 50 SL. I really love the SL and it's IQ, but I'm finding the CL a pleasure to carry around (just like the Q was). To me, the CL is basically an interchangeable lens Q. Yes, I would love if it was FF, but then the glass would be bigger. I don't see myself selling the SL...at least not yet. The SL body is not that big... but the zooms and 50 SL certainly are. Thoughts??

Hi, As soon as I sell a 2014 Focus, I am planning on buying the CL with the 18-56 and 11-23. I plan on using the camera for a light weight travel camera. My current setup is a Nikon D7100 with the 17-55 f2.8. I love it but it is a beast to lug around all day. I am going to keep the D7100 for Birding. I have read the likes and dislikes threads plus numerous reviews. I believe the CL is a good entry to the Leica world for me. I do have a few questions though: 1 How big of an issue is the wandering focus point? Can it be locked via a menu setting? 2 How well does the Leica app work as a remote release? I like to take photos from a low perspective. I currently use the Nikon right angle viewer attachment to the D7100. 3 What software would people recommend for converting DNG files to JPG? I am currently using Nikon’s software. I have not gone down the Adobe path yet. The CL would not be my first experience with Leica. My brother loaned me one of his M3s with a 35 mm lens i. Mid 70s for a college assignment. I figured it is now time to drink the Kool-aid

Grrrr! I have just finished reading the 96-page English manual (“Instructions”) for the Leica CL … A frustrating exercise to say the least. The text is awkward and hard to follow. I often found myself scratching my head and muttering, “What the heck does this mean?” Clumsiness aside, there are numerous spelling mistakes and, inexplicably, a fair amount of German text that survived translation. At this time, I won’t get into the awkwardness of the text or the plague of minor annoyances throughout, but I will point to untranslated German and misspellings, all of which would have been detected by an English word-processing spellchecker. I hope that Leica corrects the online pdf and adds an addendum regarding the effect of Firmware 2.0 on the initial text. I’d like to know what others think of the manual. Please chip in ... What errors have you found? In particular, let readers know if you have come across processing / technical errors. Be sure to state precise locations. Here's what I spotted on my read-through ... Remember these jottings relate ONLY to spelling errors and German text: Page 2, left side, halfway down: “cahngeable” Page 3, left side, bottom line: German text Page 5, left side, last two bullets: German text Page 14, left side, bottom line: “comptuer” Page 20, left side, next to bottom para contains German Page 20, right side, 8th line from the bottom: “butto” Page 24, right side, middle: “fuctions” Page 28, right side, middle: “selectt” + the German“Erweitert” ... What is TID_3717? Page 29, left side, middle: “Selectt” + bottom line: “GSelect” Page 32, top: “availabe” + “GSelect” + 4thline from bottom: “GSelect” Page 32, right side, middle: “für” Page 32, right side, bottom line: “GSelect” Page 34, left side, bottom: “GSlect” Page 36, middle: “funtion” Page 36, near bottom: “electroninical” Page 36, bottom line: “GSelect” Page 36, right side, 4th bullet: German sentence Page 38, right side, top: “automatical” Page 46, left side, first bullet: “Correpsonding” Page 48, right side, middle: “shower” should be “slower” Page 51, left side, 4thline: “containig” Page 54, right side, second header: German Page 55, left side, 4thblock of text: German (”ist”) Page 56, left side, 2ndand 3rd bullets: German (“wählen) Page 59, right side, in the last para before the “Notes” header: “influende” and “chaged” Page 63, right side, middle: German sentence Page 75, left side, middle: “isettings” Page 81, left side, middle: “differes” Page 82, left side, near bottom: “LLeica” Page 82, right side: first word (“Bei”) Page 82, right side, middle: “smarphone” and German “Passwort” Page 85, right side, bottom: “whifirmware” Page 86, left side near bottom: “exthat” Page 94, left side, near bottom: German (“oder”)

... page 24, right side... top line ambiguity: "up to 8 menu items" ... All at once, or one by one ?? ====== What and where are those functions mentioned under the second bullet (right-pointing arrow): -- "edit Right Wheel Push in Live View" ? and -- "Edit Rear FN Button in Live View" ? Rear FN button ?? What is that ?? === Sorry to be so thick... I just don't get it. Does anyone?

I know this has been covered in a variety of posts, but until Leica fix the issue with a firmware update I’m looking for what different solutions users are deploying, and it might be helpful to keep this issue under a common topic. Today was my first ‘full day’ of street shooting since I acquired my CL and the wandering focus point was particularly annoying as it often defaulted to the bottom left of the screen/viewfinder; why is this? I understand that you can reposition it by tapping the LCD screen, but I prefer to use the EVF and until you view, you don’t know where the focus point is, by the time you’ve recentred it a ‘decisive moment’ can be missed. How do you guys overcome the issue?

I posted this elsewhere last evening, but thought others here might enjoy it and might respond with some interesting comments. As always, there's no intent on my part to push any buttons, but I'm sure we'll disagree on something! — The Leica CL ... my first impressions: Made it up to Leica Store San Francisco on Tuesday and had a good long look at the CL there. I asked and was given the opportunity to reset it, fit my lenses, and make test exposures with my card. My primary desire for this camera is to use it for copy work, table-top plus other niche uses like long telephoto work, etc. I intend it to be my TTL viewing body for the value of that in precision focusing and digitizing negatives. I'm not too concerned with AF or many of the other convenience features of the CL; what motivates me is that Leica supports all my R and M lenses on it, and it will work with all of my existing accessories. That said, I do expect that any camera I own will get used for some general purpose photography as well—I'll just be using my existing manual M and R lenses via the adapters rather than buying new lenses for the camera. Picking up the body for the first time, the CL is light and small yet feels solid. The controls all move with the smoothness I expect from Leica gear, and the sense of precision in their click-settings is there. The camera is nicely spare and lean on number of buttons, etc. It looks like a "mini" Leica M. After resetting the body, then setting the file output types to JPEG+raw, I fitted my Color Skopar 28mm to the M Adapter L, and set the lens profile for the Leica 28mm Summaron-M. This was always one of my favorites when shooting with the Ricoh GXR, although I got it somewhat late in that game, and is that sweet "wide-normal" with an FoV equivalent of about 42mm on the APS-C format. A few moments fussing about to figure how to set the ISO and EV compensation, then brought the camera to my eye. While not the "state of the art" of the SL, the EVF on the CL is very nice. I turned on focus peaking, it worked as expected. I stepped up the magnification and it worked as expected. No problems. One press on the center button on the four way pad and all info is there, another press and it's a clean view. Nice. Down to f/5.6, I had no difficulty seeing the 28mm lens go in and out of focus as I turned the focusing ring. Below that, I found magnification became necessary for precision. I didn't have the time to try to evaluate how accurate the distance scale was on this camera with the mount adapter, but I expect it to be slightly off (allowing one to focus slightly past infinity) if it's like all the other bodies I've tried this adapter on. I tend to forget just how good a lens this little 28mm really is. It's simply terrific, and the Summaron-M 28mm f/5.6 lens profile seems to suit it perfectly on APS-C. Next I fitted the Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21mm f/4 ASPH, the WATE. I took four or five exposures at each of the primary focal length settings, both at 6-8' distance and from a close up position. If the Super-Vario-Elmar-T 11-23mm f/3.5-4.5 ASPH is actually a better performer than this one, it's probably beyond my ability to see the difference: The WATE produces just awesome image quality... And that's hand held, without the benefit of a tripod to really make it sing. It's just an amazing lens, IMO, and I'm very happy I sprang for the big bucks to get it. Of course, the 11-33mm zoom has a wider range, but with the WATE if I want wider still I can always just switch to the M body. I'd lose the framing/focusing precision of the CL, particularly in the extended close-up range, but since I don't normally use an ultrawide for extreme close-up work or copy work where such things matter most, I don't think that's much of a loss for me. Finally I did a series of exposures with the Macro-Elmarit-R 60mm and the APO-Macro-Elmarit-TL 60mm: my standard reference shot, a number of close ups, some tests shooting a tape measure to check the magnification indication on the barrel of the R lens, a couple of portraits of the sales person who was helping me. Both of these lenses are a bit bulky, but they both balance beautifully on the camera IMO ... not too large, not too heavy, not too light. The TL lens obviously has AF and focuses very quickly and surely. The R lens also focuses quickly but manually. Neither is any problem to focus with extreme accuracy even at f/8, without so much as either peaking or magnification turned on. Notice I haven't said much about the CL's controls? There's a reason for that: the little beastie was fitted with firmware v2, I'd quickly set up the dials and buttons based on my reading the manual before I got here, and everything about it worked exactly as it was designed to ... and very nicely for me. The only ergonomic niggle, for me, is that like with most small digital cameras, there's not enough space to fit my mitts comfortably on the naked body (of course, that doesn't matter at all for copystand and tripod use). I tried the grip and it made a big "Meh." sound in my head. I tried the half case and that does the job of thickening and making the camera just a hair taller, with a bit more room for my thumbs, etc. So for walking around picture taking, I'll need the half case (or Protector, as Leica likes to call it). I'm pleased that they put a magnetically closed trap door in the bottom so you can access the SD card and swap the battery without taking it off. I thanked the salesperson for her time, told her I'd be in touch, and left for home. Once there, I moved all the DNG + JPEG files into Lightroom v6.14. Everything opened right up and looks great right at the DNG defaults. The 28 and the WATE both shine beautifully on this body; all of the Color Skopar 28's typical color shifting at the edges are outside of the sensor area, it seems, and the Summaron-M 28 lens profile cleans up a tiny bit of barrel distortion in this part of the lens's FoV. The truly interesting comparison, to me, is the Macro-Elmarit-R 60 vs the APO Macro-Elmarit-TL 60: With the R-lens being cropped to APS-C, I imagined that it might look a bit shuttered or confined since Leica has always put a lot of effort into tuning their lenses for the 35mm film format. Well, nothing to fear with this one. It is hard to see any difference whatever between the TL and R lenses, and both are just superb performers on this body. From 1:2 to a half-length portrait, the images couldn't be too much more similar without saying that they're the same optics just in a different lens mount, although I know that's not the case. Of course, I don't touch on AF or many of the cameras' other features yet. They're all niceties that I expect are of value to someone, but my primary notion was to examine the quality of the viewfinder, the control layout, and the imaging performance with my intended lenses. I think I'm going to be well satisfied with the Leica CL as both an adjunct for my niche needs and as a peer sibling to my M-D. — End game: After studying the manual carefully and then evaluating, handling the Leica CL in person, I've decided to obtain one. I should have it by the weekend. ... One more short trip on the Hamster Wheel of Progress.

Three things: 1 The wandering focus point 2. There is no early warning of a near-empty battery, it simply dies unexpectedly. 3. The handgrip has no quick-release or easy access to the battery flap. That makes it a pretty good camera for me.

Almost perfection ....

Well - it's a long time since a love affair was so brief. I've been interested in working with the CL, but after a month or so of playing I've come to the conclusion it's not for me. I've tried the TL 23 18-55 and 55-135, but in the end didn't really enjoy them. I can see how some will love them, but they just don't meet my needs. Part of the issue is that the camera with lenses mounted ends up being BULKIER than my Ms. OK I know they're mostly zooms so you have many FLs in one lens, but even the 23mm (especially with a hood on) feels huge compared with the M10 + 35 summicron asph. The other issue is that compared with full frame I just wasn't subjectively satisfied with the image results from APS-C. High ISO was no where near what I can get with the M10 and I wasn't happy with the results I was seeing on screen or paper. Good, but not quite good enough. After experimenting, I also didn't feel there was any point in putting M lenses on the CL - it seemed beside the point, and if I need EVF focusing I use either LV or the Visoflex 020. If I want longer I'll use the R 80-200 f4 or I'll use my Canon system. So, current plan is they're all going off to Ffordes and I'm getting a used Canon 70-300 f4-f5.6 (£760!!) to go with the 5D3 for those occasions when I know I'll need reach and IS. Bye-bye CL forum - back to the M10

I've had great results with the new Profoto A1, which is an event shooter's dream flash, beautiful light, massive capacity, and instantaneous flash recycling. I realize there are many Profoto haters out there, but for my event shooting, I've been extremely pleased with the A1 on a Canon as well as on a flash bracket using a Profoto Sony trigger. I'm using a Leica CL as a backup (small, light, wonderful quality TL lenses, excellent higher ISO performance) and wanted to see how the Profoto A1 would work (in manual mode, of course) on the CL. According to Profoto, all you need is a flash shoe/foot with a single center pin, which the CL has. But no matter what configuration I try (and, yes, with the manual switch on the A1 turned on), the flash will not fire. Leica's regular SF40 and 60 flashes work just fine, so I know that flash functionality isn't a problem. Any one have any suggestions?

sieh da: https://www.fotointern.ch/archiv/2018/01/06/die-leica-cl-im-harten-praxisvergleich-mit-der-sl/

So, I got my new CL. I always buy leather cases for my cameras to protect them. It looks like Leica's case for the CL won't be available until the Spring. That sucks! I wrote to Zhou and he has no plans to make one. Does anybody know if any third party is making, or is planning to make, a case for the camera? Thanks! Marc

Has anybody used any arca-swiss type L-bracket on the CL? Alain.

Etwas untergegangen im photokina Trubel: Es gibt ein Firmware Update für die Leica CL (Version 2.1)! » Version 2.1 für die Leica CL (Download) Informationen und Anleitung zur Installation Die Verbesserungen: NEU: Kompatibilität mit der neuen Leica FOTOS app Verbinden sie ihre Leica Kamera mit der Leica FOTOS app NEU: QR Code für alle Leica Kameras Einfacher Verbindungsaufbau zwischen App und Kamera. NEU: 1-Klick Verbindung über den FN-Knopf Das WLAN wird über den FN-Knopf ohne Untermenüs aktiviert. NEU: Fester WLAN Name und Password Keine zusätzliche Untermenüs für WLAN Name und Passwort. NEU: Keine Untermenüs für die Einstellung des Verbindungsmodus

Didn't get much attention during photokina: The Leica CL has a new firmware update: » Leica CL Version 2.1 (Download) Details and installation instructions The improvements: NEW: Compatible with the new Leica FOTOS app Connect your smartphone to your Leica camera NEW: QR Code for all Leica Cameras Easy pairing of smartphone and Leica cameras. NEW: 1-Click Connection with FN-Button WLAN starts without submenus on FN-button. NEW: Fixed WLAN name and password No submenus for setting name and password. NEW: No submenus for mode settings No submenus for setting a connection mode.

Apologies if this has been discussed before. For those with more technical knowledge than me, is it even possible for Leica to add Bulb mode to the CL? I was trying to do some slow shutter landscape and was frustrated by the limitation of 30 sec shutter. Thanks.

Hi All, My first post here, I've only been lurking since I don't have a Leica, yet. I've been contemplating a Leica, hoping to get some friendly advises whether a used CL is a good buy, or a used M 262, and a couple of prime lenses for them. A bit of background. My first real camera was a Yashica rangefinder with a 41mm lens, a gift from my aunt when I was going overseas to study. I shot thousands of slides with it, well, that was my only camera. Looking back, I like the 41mm focal length, and to this day, I still don't shoot at 50mm. I shot for a while with a Nikon D300 and the generic 18-200mm zoom while working and traveling in Europe and Asia, an 85mm for portraits, that's pretty much all I shoot, very little landscape or macro or anything else. Occasionally, I rent the Nikon 14-24mm to do some interior work. For wide,the 28mm is not satisfactory for me, I would go 21mm or wider. I moved to the D810 for full-frame and only own 2 lenses, 35mm/2 and 85mm/1.4. So I want to get something more compact and don't mind APS-C to travel with, a Japan trip is coming up. I seriously considered the Fuji x100F/T but crossed that out after trying a friend's X-E2, something about the Fuji tone that I do not get excited about. I considered the Nikon Df but it's not much smaller. Then I started reading this forum. The M10 is out of my budget, and wonder if the M 262 is still a good buy, I will probably look for a 40mm first before considering a 35mm/2. Along the way I considered and ruled out the Q, excellent as it is, don't mind a fixed-lens but I think I would not be happy at 28mm. Yes, I know you can crop to 35mm and 50mm, but it's not the same, if you get my drift., So the other thought is a used CL, APS-C is fine. I understand the CL goes well with the 23mm Summincron for 35mm equivalent, the Nokton 40mm sounds good, but that'll be 60mm equivalent. So would anyone suggest a 28mm to give me a 42mm crop? Sorry for the long-winded post. Thanks All.

Dass Digitalkameras Probleme mit kräftigen Rottönen haben, ist ja nichts Neues. Hieran habe ich mir die Zähne ausgebissen - das JPG aus der Kamera und das in Photoshop geöffnete DNG, hier wieder als JPG abgespeichert, waren einfach nicht ineinander überzuführen. Die Wahrheit liegt wohl irgendwo in der Mitte. Das Rot war jedoch gelblich, nicht Richtung Magenta und ganz und gar nicht matt. Irgendwie wirkt das JPG durchzeichneter. Weiß jemand, wie man das in den Griff bekommt? Ich habe es mit allen mir bekannten Methoden versucht (Kanäle, selektive Farbkorrektur, Farbtemperatur), ging einfach nicht. Vielleicht weil das JPF von vorneherein nicht soviel Dynamik mitbringt? Mit dem echten DNG ist der Unterschied natürlich viel krasser. Im DNG scheint der Gelbton (Orange) komplett zu fehlen, d.h. das Rot ist stark Richtung Magenta verschoben.

Hello dear CL owners! In my CL I noticed that the display warms up very quickly, more than other cameras (I had in the past). It's nothing dramatic, but in warm weather it's already noticeably warm. Do you make the same experience with your camera? Thanks a lot and a good week. Andreas

There have been many conversations here and elsewhere regarding battery life. I thought I would share my recent experience. I have just spent an interesting, if tiring day pounding the halls at Photokina. I had with me my CL, 11-23 & 18-55 lenses & three batteries. The camera was set to record raw+jpg (small). I used the viewfinder only with minimal chimping & diving into the menu. The first battery lasted all day at Photokina, and even into the following day walking around Cologne. Once the photos were in Lightroom a quick count revealed 462 exposures before the battery symbol started flashing red. To my mind, very impressive.

Die Leica CL wird bald in Silber erhältlich sein.