ashwinrao1 Posted September 2, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I believe that I discovered Stephan Daniel's "R-mount solution" in looking at the new Panasonic GF-1 micro 4/3 camera. See the following link: DMC-GF1 | PRODUCTS | LUMIX | Digital Camera | Panasonic Global In the accessories, options, there are several adapters for the GF-1, including an R-mount adapter, M-mount adapter, and 4/3 adapter. GIven that Leica plans to introduce several products, might not one be a rebranded Panasonic GF-1, and this could double as a R-mount "lens solution" (well, sort of, since it's effectively doubling the focal length of any lens put on this camera)? Here's how I see Leica's September 9th taking shape, as a result: 1. New Leica M9 full frame 18 mp, as widely reported 2. Digital Leica CL, which is actually a rebranded Panasonic GF-1, which can use the R mount adapter 3. They'll probably discuss their new micro 4/3 lenses, that including the Leica Macro-elmarit 45 mm f/2.8 with image stabilization, that's built for the GF-1, basically, or a rebranded Leica version.... These cameras, along with the S2, provide cameras and optics for everyone from the novice to the professional, no? Anyways, hope I don't get flamed. Just figured I'd share this information and my elaborate interpretation of it. I guess we'll find out on 9/9/09... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ashwinrao1 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share #2 Posted September 2, 2009 Another link to support my claim: DMC-GF1 | PRODUCTS | LUMIX | Digital Camera | Panasonic Global "The DMW-MA3R is developed under support of Leica Camera AG making it possible to attach Leica R lenses on DMC-GF1. This adaptor also allows users to use movable MF assist function which enlarges the selected area when focusing manually. The compatibility information of Leica R lenses is on Compatibilities of mount adapter DMW-MA2M and DMW-MA3R | Compatibility | Digital Camera | Product Support | Support | Panasonic Global " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted September 2, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 2, 2009 Unfortunately, this is, in no way, shape or form an acceptable solution for R lenses. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashwinrao1 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted September 2, 2009 Just doing my reporting....I agree with you. Was expecting something more substantial, but this adapter seems to be an option for R lens use, rather than the true solution.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 2, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 2, 2009 The 4/3 to R adaptor was already available when Leica said that there 'would be' a digital solution so clearly this isn't it. I suspect you are not an R user yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashwinrao1 Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted September 2, 2009 Nope, I'm an M-user. Sorry, if I jumped the gun or reported on something that's been around for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 2, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The R solution must be a R10 ... not girlfriend-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 2, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 2, 2009 This is my R digital solution. Cheap, very modual, can and able to shoot film and Digital at the same time, and no more bulk then my Metz flash unit. Lol. Rosie our Dog is quite happy with this combo, her Image was taken with the digicam on top of the R9. Ken. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95203-the-digital-solution-for-r-mount-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=1014368'>More sharing options...
caparobertsan Posted September 2, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 2, 2009 Buttttt It is hard to resist! I did not want EP-1 but I might like this one., because of evf. But all lens attatched will become twice longer focal length. Yeah R user wo`nt be happy. I mean most of people are using eos 5D with their R lenses. But I knew Pnasonic had to releace compact one like olympus. Maybe Leica might put their name on it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 2, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2009 I could be interested by a small GF1-like digicam if it had at least an APS sensor (next PanaLeica 'solution'?). R 19 and 21 lenses would be too big but tiny gems like Oly 21/2 and 28/2 could fit perfectly. I would add my dear R 50/2 and 90/2 but i would miss a fast ultra-wide. R 15/2.8 is too big, Oly 18/3.5 not wide enough and too slow, so i don't know. Same problem as always with crop cams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanut2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2009 I already have the R to micro 4/3rds adapter by panasonic it fits also fits the Oly E-p1 but I am still waiting for 9/9. Adapter looks just like leicas adapters really made well. I will get one of the micro 4/3 cameras oly or pen by the end of the year. Still have to wait for 9/9 Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted September 2, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 2, 2009 Yes, this is no solution at all. A 2x crop sensor may be interesting as an extension for your telephoto lenses, but is useless for R focal lengths 35mm and below. Also, these Four Thirds adapters still require stop-down metering, correct? If I can't get auto-diaphragm, why buy a FT camera to use R lenses? Much better off sticking to a full-frame Canon. I expect Leica's solution, if one comes at all, will allow auto-diaphragm, and will be at most a 1.5 crop. Anything else is inferior to the solution we already have --- a 5D or 5D2. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 3, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 3, 2009 I expect Leica's solution, if one comes at all, will allow auto-diaphragm, and will be at most a 1.5 crop. Anything else is inferior to the solution we already have --- a 5D or 5D2. The best solution so far is the DMR: accurate full-aperture metering, a viewfinder designed for manual focus, auto-diaphragm, no mirror clearance problems, a Kodak CCD with no AA filter, and a 16-bit ADC. A suitable R solution would have to be at least as good as the DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted September 3, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 3, 2009 The only solution that would appeal to me would be a full frame solution. Some things are better than nothing but I see this solution as a stop-gap until Leica can bring us a real solution - and, of course, it does make the equipment (GF1 or whatever Leica is bringing) more usable. I think Leica understands this - kind of quiets down the nay-sayers,,,at least for a while anyway. I'm glad the FF M9 is here, albeit a little jealous since the R10 isn't coming...it's cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted September 3, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 3, 2009 The best solution so far is the DMR: accurate full-aperture metering, a viewfinder designed for manual focus, auto-diaphragm, no mirror clearance problems, a Kodak CCD with no AA filter, and a 16-bit ADC. A suitable R solution would have to be at least as good as the DMR. Agreed Doug. I wasn't tempted to include the DMR as a current option because it's only available used, if one is lucky. For the most part it isn't available at all. So let me qualify by saying "a new offering" would have to at least offer auto-diaphragm and no more than a 1.5 crop, in my opinion, to be more attractive than a 5D2. Certainly not to say that we can't hope for even better. I'll also add that I don't own a 5D2, just an R9 (well, two of them) and lenses. So I suppose I don't find the 5D2 to be an incredibly attractive option either. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvalarcher Posted September 3, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 3, 2009 Quote: Originally Posted by wildlightphoto The best solution so far is the DMR: accurate full-aperture metering, a viewfinder designed for manual focus, auto-diaphragm, no mirror clearance problems, a Kodak CCD with no AA filter, and a 16-bit ADC. A suitable R solution would have to be at least as good as the DMR. I totally agree with this formulation ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted September 4, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 4, 2009 Quote:Originally Posted by wildlightphoto The best solution so far is the DMR: accurate full-aperture metering, a viewfinder designed for manual focus, auto-diaphragm, no mirror clearance problems, a Kodak CCD with no AA filter, and a 16-bit ADC. A suitable R solution would have to be at least as good as the DMR. I totally agree with this formulation ! and while it could be done it will be be hard to do in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamr Posted September 6, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 6, 2009 and while it could be done it will be be hard to do in my opinion. Considering that Leica converted an M film body into digital M8 and 9, I am sure that they can do the same with the R system. Afterall the DMR had none of the issues that the M8 had / has regarding high ISO noise, IR filters, back / front focus issues etc....I can only guess that finances currently prevent the development of the digital R. The most cost effective route would be for a DMR-2 with M9 electronics, but a cropped sensor. But it appears that the power of current marketing trends dictates a full frame sensor in a smaller body. If the M9 has a full frame sensor then development of the R solution will be a walk in the park. :-) Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted September 6, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 6, 2009 Could very well be that Leica ha to decide where to put their (research) money. And there's a huge market for the M compared to the R which is more exotic and - I think - with less streamlines customers. I think it's coincidence which photographers use R, and what they use if for. The M market is much more predictable. But mainly it's the one that would pay back the most on the research money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCoupe Posted September 7, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 7, 2009 Still waiting, Leica. How can it be that a company which bragged about backward compatibility would leave its R-faithful in a lurch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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