Would you sell your M10R-BP for an M11-P safari?

[Robert Blanko]

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Would you sell your M10R black paint (the limited edition, now called glossy black paint for the M11) for an M11-P safari?

Asking for a friend…

[graphlex]

Not me.  But then I’m trading my perfect, well-behaved M10-D for an M11. 🤔

[jakontil]

Also, my friend sold his m10r bp for m11 gbp.. not sure he would trade in for a safari, and may be his preference is just in black paint, who knows? 

[graphlex]

I chose the glossy, but not because I prefer it—just in the hope it might retain some value longer.

[Jeff S]

Definitely not.

[satijntje]

I exchanged my M10-r black paint with a brand new M11 glossy black paint.
The IQ that comes out of the M11 sensor is a again a step forward, the battery capacity is endless, no more stupid bottom plate, charging in the car with USB-c and so on …….
Well done Leica (after finally solving the story with the freezes)
Difficult to understand that the M10-R BP was only 2000 units as on every Leica event, I always saw many M10 BP, sometimes even more than a normal M10 or M10r.
I soon will update my limited to 600pcs M10 Mono (Leica Wetzlar version) with a second hand M11M and all is perfect!

A green camera, not for me 🙂

[Kiwimac]

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I think I wouldn’t. 
 

I did like the colour from the 10-R probably the most from all the digitally Ms. I also love black paint on brass. 
 

 

[costa43]

Go with your gut. 

[otto.f]

1 hour ago, Al Brown said:

But if it persists just go for it and live happily ever after.

This is not guaranteed, there are many cases here of regret having sold Leica stuff, more so with lenses than with bodies, but still. 

[jakontil]

6 minutes ago, otto.f said:

This is not guaranteed, there are many cases here of regret having sold Leica stuff, more so with lenses than with bodies, but still. 

Yeah i second to this… sometimes you just missing it

[Kiwimac]

36 minutes ago, otto.f said:

This is not guaranteed, there are many cases here of regret having sold Leica stuff, more so with lenses than with bodies, but still. 

Mea culpa. 

[T25UFO]

This is really two questions:

1) do you prefer the M10R over the M11?  Lots of people still see the”10” as the last true M.

2) do you prefer one finish over the other?  BP will hold its value better and the M10R BP is the only digital M now selling for more than its original list price.

[overexposed]

Well this is a difficult ques....NO

[davidhellmann]

The guy here says the M11-P Safari is maybe also limited. If that helps

 

 

[Eoin]

Never fancied a M10-R BP at the price they fetch 2nd hand and notwithstanding OCD which would get the better of me and require some Black Paint lenses to "complete the look" at equally inflated prices.

Equally, the Safari M11 in my world would require purchases of chrome lenses, again, my OCD kicking in.
So I resign myself (without too much difficulty) to standard finish chrome or black chrome bodies and serial production lenses, all beautifully engineered, equally capable, readily available 2nd hand with huge savings over new or special editions.

That's just me, but my advice fwiw, if you have the means, do whatever makes you happy.

[charlesphoto99]

IMO the Safari with black lenses looks like an ugly pastiche of styles. So you'd better have silver lenses if trading. I wouldn't - my M10-R BP is for life.   

[Robert Blanko]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb T25UFO:

This is really two questions:

1) do you prefer the M10R over the M11?  Lots of people still see the”10” as the last true M.

2) do you prefer one finish over the other?  BP will hold its value better and the M10R BP is the only digital M now selling for more than its original list price.

Well, he has already an M11-D that he will keep, so he is aware of the technical differences. Image quality is in his opinion not a big difference. But he is also to some extent a tech guy - he likes the GPS-tagging and time synchronization. Having only one battery system would be a plus too.

He bought the M10R-BP back then as it was a deal where you could not resist and as the BP (or in these days: GBP) is aesthetically nice. But the Safari also attracts him a lot, basically on par with the M10R-BP.

Thus, so far I would see a slight edge in favor of the M11P Safari and recommend him to sell the M10R-BP and to buy the M11-P safari.

But on the other hand... tough decision. 🤔😁

[Elliot Harper]

I have been owning m10-r BP for a little over 2 years. And around same time I bought a brand new m11 black chrome. I traded m11 for the m11 Glossy black as soon as it was released.

so now I still have m10-r BP and m11 glossy black.

to conclude, hell no! Safari is ugly. I wouldn’t do it even if I were offered some cash to trade m11p safari for my m10-r BP.

Edited May 15 by Elliot Harper

[Elliot Harper]

6 hours ago, davidhellmann said:

The guy here says the M11-P Safari is maybe also limited. If that helps

 

 

This guy is known to speak things that he doesn’t know or mean.

He also said m11 glossy black is limited which is not true

Edited May 15 by Elliot Harper

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[Robert Blanko]

Even if it is strictly speaking not a limited edition, it also seems plausible that they have attributed a certain contingent for making batches of safari Ms. Thus, it could be quasi limited. Actually every digital M so far was strictly speaking limited, however in much larger batches... 

And if it is true that they will produce this until August, would this be an indicator of a new M camera? 🤔

As correctly and ironically noted elsewhere in the forum, the "special"/non-standard variants are usually sold at the end of the model cycle. And then the hype starts again until the next iteration.