Smogg Posted February 22 Share #741 Posted February 22 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are classic dirty tricks of manufacturers' marketing aimed at misleading buyers when comparing with competitors' cameras. For example, on the Leica website the weight of the cameras is indicated without batteries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted February 22 Share #742 Posted February 22 I bet that’s true of all camera manufacturers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #743 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, andybarton said: I bet that’s true of all camera manufacturers The Sony and Hasselblad websites indicate the correct weight, I haven't checked other manufacturers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #744 Posted February 22 Canon, Nikon also indicate the honest weight. Apparently, Leica assumes that there is an option to use the camera without a battery😝 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #745 Posted February 22 14 hours ago, Ray Vonn said: A successful hit with instagrammers/Youtubers/those that can't be arsed with all that challening exposure triangle stuff no doubt. If that rumour's true of course. But why take something that is unique (Leica M) and place it in direct competition with a mature product that is very successful (Fuji rangefinder 'style')? It makes no sense to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #746 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Smogg said: There are classic dirty tricks of manufacturers' marketing aimed at misleading buyers when comparing with competitors' cameras. For example, on the Leica website the weight of the cameras is indicated without batteries. Anyone contemplating spending $5k to $8k on a camera should at least go to a dealer and hold it in person. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #747 Posted February 22 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, Chris W said: Anyone contemplating spending $5k to $8k on a camera should at least go to a dealer and hold it in person. That's right. Don't trust marketing materials, you have to hold the camera yourself. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 22 Share #748 Posted February 22 Actually I don’t think that smaller and lighter equals better. The M8 series felt better in my hands than the film M and M 10 do. Plus I like to have a bit of mass on a camera. Less motion blur, more stable viewfinder. As for carrying the camera and lenses: when I go shopping with my wife I have to carry far more weight than any camera and I don’t mind. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #749 Posted February 22 25 minutes ago, jaapv said: Actually I don’t think that smaller and lighter equals better. The M8 series felt better in my hands than the film M and M 10 do. Plus I like to have a bit of mass on a camera. Less motion blur, more stable viewfinder. As for carrying the camera and lenses: when I go shopping with my wife I have to carry far more weight than any camera and I don’t mind. If you think the weight is not enough, you can always add extra weight to the neck strap😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5761666'>More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #750 Posted February 22 Big difference between the weight and bulk of any M series body and your average DSLR. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted February 22 Share #751 Posted February 22 Bulk yes, but weight? Interesting with these comparisons is, that DSLRs are a dying species and that the earlier M concept seems to be staying strong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #752 Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, jankap said: Bulk yes, but weight? Interesting with these comparisons is, that DSLRs are a dying species and that the earlier M concept seems to be staying strong. I think a digital version of the Canon AE-1 DSLR in its original dimensions would be a huge success. It's strange that Canon won't make one. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5761698'>More sharing options...
phojomatic Posted February 22 Share #753 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Smogg said: If you think the weight is not enough, you can always add extra weight to the neck strap😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Funny aside: I play and restore vintage drums, and just ordered these exact washers for the tension rods. I saw this photo first thing in the morning with only 1/2 cup coffee and was like, wait, am I on the Leica forum or Amazon order page? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 22 Share #754 Posted February 22 (edited) The relative fatness of the M240 is obvious when using it together with the M11, but it is not as bothering as it may look at first glance. If i had a choice between this fat an EVF-M with IBIS and a thinner one w/o IBIS i would happily choose the fat project. Not sure 3mm thickness difference have any relevance for photogs interested in the EVF-M anyway. Edited February 22 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted February 22 Author Share #755 Posted February 22 Panasonic are about to release a 44mp high readout speed sensor for their S1rii release. Maybe we will see a Leica variant of this sensor in an M soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #756 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, costa43 said: Panasonic are about to release a 44mp high readout speed sensor for their S1rii release. Maybe we will see a Leica variant of this sensor in an M soon. Why does Leica M need such a sensor? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted February 22 Author Share #757 Posted February 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Smogg said: Why does Leica M need such a sensor? Maybe it will be fast enough to allow Leica to omit the mechanical shutter. It is a similar resolution to the Nikon z8/9 and they have only an electronic shutter so could be the ‘same’ Edited February 22 by costa43 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted February 22 Share #758 Posted February 22 14 hours ago, SrMi said: Leica specifications say a difference of 3mm. 3mm... Good God! It's like carrying around an 8x10 view camera! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #759 Posted February 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, costa43 said: Maybe it will be fast enough to allow Leica to omit the mechanical shutter. I won't buy a camera without mechanical shutter. It's funny, as the discussion goes on we're getting further and further away from the features that are quintessential Leica M. I shot a Leica M6 with film rated at ISO800 on tour with bands in the early 90's. No autofocus, no EVF, no IBIS, no low light performance etc... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 22 by Chris W 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5761911'>More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted February 22 Share #760 Posted February 22 vor 23 Minuten schrieb Chris W: I shot a Leica M6 with film rated at ISO800 on tour with bands in the early 90's. No autofocus, no EVF, no IBIS, no low light performance etc... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! At least the music was better back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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