EVF M rumoured

[lct]

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4 minutes ago, pgk said:

And they have benefits such as highly accurate focus with wide lenses [...]

Matter of taste and/or experience i guess. Old discussion Almost all my focusings are made with the EVF from 15mm to 135mm since i have an M11. I prefer the RF mode in low light when digital noise is too strong in the EVF but otherwise the Visoflex 2 sits pretty much all the time on my M11. YMMV.

[algrove]

Me too ict.

[Stef63]

5 hours ago, T25UFO said:

But my "POV" was just attempted humour in response to @Stef63 comment that this event is reaching intergalactic levels.  

Fair point — though it’s hard to miss that some treat the arrival of this camera with truly intergalactic importance, at least within our tiny Leica M universe. Even Leica calls it a landslide or something like that. Hopefully my own attempt at humor wasn’t lost somewhere in deep space ...😉

[la1402]

3 hours ago, Stef63 said:

Fair point — though it’s hard to miss that some treat the arrival of this camera with truly intergalactic importance..

Really? Where?

[luigi bertolotti]

6 hours ago, lct said:

....the Visoflex 2 sits pretty much all the time on my M11...

For me (M240),Viso sits too much time... 😉, and that's the reason for I could consider this rumored camera...

[rramesh]

The advantage of a Visoflex is this. One can remove it if not needed. Plus the Visoflex gets obsoleted sooner than an M, even with the latter's sensor, motherboard and electronics. The Visoflex on my M9 fell apart in less than 2 years.

I hate to carry around a working photo capture device with some parts obsoleted.

Edited Sunday at 01:18 AM by rramesh

[erl]

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I have and use some photo capture devices that are nearly as obsolete as me!

All still making pictures the equal of 'new' stuff. 😉

[mjw3]

18 hours ago, pgk said:

I'm fascinated by the desire for something new. Few post have actually discussed its genuine viability as an image creating camera, other than assuming that it might be easier on older eyes.

Because it really won't be anything "new"
Based on the latest rumors, it will be an M11 with a different viewport. Easier to focus (for many), and provides full-time wysiwyg exposure preview.

[jrichie]

1 hour ago, mjw3 said:

Because it really won't be anything "new"
Based on the latest rumors, it will be an M11 with a different viewport. Easier to focus (for many), and provides full-time wysiwyg exposure preview.

It will come down to the clarity and speed of the EVF for me to even consider it [at least SL or better], and even if I do, I am unsure why I would want to lose around AU$5k on my M11 to replace it with an M11...  It really has to be an outstanding experience for this to happen, solve all my glasses framing issues and be something I absolutely love.

 

[jaapv]

6 hours ago, rramesh said:

The Visoflex on my M9 fell apart in less than 2 years..

It must have been a mislabeled M240.  No wonder it fell apart. 

[grahamc]

what kind of bag would members recommend using with such a camera. and which countries will it be best suited to shooting in 

[student]

23 hours ago, pgk said:

I'm fascinated by the desire for something new. Few post have actually discussed its genuine viability as an image creating camera, other than assuming that it might be easier on older eyes.

Surely, the presence of the Red Dot is a presumed guarantee of the 'image creating quality"? Or are you among the "heretics"?

[Alexander108]

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

[kiwidad]

Maybe AF is an option with M lenses incorporating an adapter like Nikon did years back on the F3AF with the TC-16af adapter. Downside was the 1.6x multiplier

[kiwidad]

1 hour ago, grahamc said:

what kind of bag would members recommend using with such a camera. and which countries will it be best suited to shooting in 

Can’t recommend anything for something I don’t know even actually exists yet. Bags for me also tend to be more about what needs to travel with the camera and whether it might rain!

I fail to see how countries is even relevant?

Edited Sunday at 09:55 AM by kiwidad

[lct]

2 hours ago, grahamc said:

what kind of bag would members recommend using with such a camera. and which countries will it be best suited to shooting in 

Assuming the EVF-M is not a Q variant, any bag suited for M camera should fit i guess since there is no Visoflex to come into play. As for counrties, anyone allowing M cameras should be fine but i'm not sure to understand the question.

[grahamc]

28 minutes ago, lct said:

Assuming the EVF-M is not a Q variant, any bag suited for M camera should fit i guess since there is no Visoflex to come into play. As for counrties, anyone allowing M cameras should be fine but i'm not sure to understand the question.

Thanks for the help as always LCT, and please excuse the facetious questions without appropriate tongue in cheek emoji

[pgk]

9 hours ago, erl said:

I have and use some photo capture devices that are nearly as obsolete as me!

All still making pictures the equal of 'new' stuff. 😉

Me too! Just bought a Nikon D800E (no longer 'supported', ie. no spares). Great and still highly capable camera. Bit heavy though. Pretty cheap now too. My wife still uses Canon 5D2s and again, within their operating envelope they still perform very well indeed. My M9s probably fall into this category too.

That said there is little to persuade me that I should pay a large sum of money to buy any of the latest and greatest. I don't need their 'advantages' (usually low noise at higher ISOs) so there are few reasons to 'upgrade'. And if I am honest this probably applies to my M9s. To me an M9 with a few more (mid-20s) MPixels, totally manual operation and a higher ISO capability and slightly extended dynamic range would be a really innovative but it probably wouldn't have a specification which would sell these days. It would though be a very functional photographic tool.

[hexx]

Anyone getting one of these while waiting for whatever it is they will announce next week? You might need a bigger bag though. 

Edited Sunday at 11:53 AM by hexx

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[pgh]

On 10/18/2025 at 4:35 AM, pgk said:

I'm fascinated by the desire for something new. Few post have actually discussed its genuine viability as an image creating camera, other than assuming that it might be easier on older eyes.

Because it’s hard to imagine that viability in comparison! If it happens, a true “give them what they want” idea that is hard to imagine a hit in real use.
 

Manual focus only EVF for a higher cost than any more advanced design with AF? Perhaps this is no longer a camera meant to capture dynamic moments or used in documentary scenarios, just for flowers, cars, landscapes, still portraits. Not an M in a real sense nor in spirit then either. Have people used EVF much for documentary work? Not ideal compared to a rangefinder. 

Leica is easy to laugh at, but if this idea is real it would take the cake to my mind, moreso than the watch. I’d guess most that think it’s easier on the eyes haven’t used an EVF in extended use. Who in this world wants more screen time? I’d hope Leica Blackstone is smart enough not to spend time on this but that remains to be seen. 
 

ok, I’m sure there are a few, but count me as definitively not getting it. (In the actual or the conceptual sense).

that said, if they are doing this, and somehow make the design more usable and practical than I’m able to imagine, I’ll be happy to eat my words (but not buy it).