IkarusJohn Posted October 4 Share #2861 Posted October 4 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, SrMi said: So, no mechanical shutter then? Minor factual problem getting in the way of a pipedream - the Q has a leaf shutter … Quote Here are a few AI-generated mockups … Not really based on anything, then is it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted October 4 Share #2862 Posted October 4 Not sure why the EVF-M, whatever its name, should mimic any rangefinder. It is supposed to be a modern camera, so disguising it as a 70 years old camera won't bring it any more customers. The idea of an M-mount Q looks interesting from this viewpoint. It would complement the M11 and M12 rather than competing with them. Just a guess. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted October 4 Share #2863 Posted October 4 I don’t understand this price comparison with the Q. When I last looked the Q had a lens attached. Logic suggests this new M EV thingy should either have a lens thrown in for free or be cheaper than the Q. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted October 4 Share #2864 Posted October 4 7 minutes ago, T25UFO said: I don’t understand this price comparison with the Q. When I last looked the Q had a lens attached. Logic suggests this new M EV thingy should either have a lens thrown in for free or be cheaper than the Q. Although once an in body shutter is incorporated, any cost benefit would probably be largely eroded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Harper Posted October 4 Share #2865 Posted October 4 46 minutes ago, lct said: Not sure why the EVF-M, whatever its name, should mimic any rangefinder. It is supposed to be a modern camera, so disguising it as a 70 years old camera won't bring it any more customers. The idea of an M-mount Q looks interesting from this viewpoint. It would complement the M11 and M12 rather than competing with them. Just a guess. Because M stands for rangefinder 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted October 4 Share #2866 Posted October 4 45 minutes ago, lct said: Not sure why the EVF-M, whatever its name, should mimic any rangefinder. It is supposed to be a modern camera, so disguising it as a 70 years old camera won't bring it any more customers. The idea of an M-mount Q looks interesting from this viewpoint. It would complement the M11 and M12 rather than competing with them. Just a guess. People run fleets of Leica-Ms, so having common haptics is a major plus. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4 Share #2867 Posted October 4 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: People run fleets of Leica-Ms, so having common haptics is a major plus. For oldies like me perhaps but even i would not be tempted by a new camera looking like coming from the last century. Marketing is not my speciality though admittedly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 4 Share #2868 Posted October 4 1 hour ago, lct said: Not sure why the EVF-M, whatever its name, should mimic any rangefinder. It is supposed to be a modern camera, so disguising it as a 70 years old camera won't bring it any more customers. The idea of an M-mount Q looks interesting from this viewpoint. It would complement the M11 and M12 rather than competing with them. Just a guess. Oh! I think you're quite wrong here - there is so much cool associated with the M design - disguising it as a 70 year old camera will bring in lots of buyers, but making it look like something else and it would just be an EVF camera with no AF (and who wants one of those). . . . and even if you aren't looking at 'cool' those old guys who can't focus rangefinders will want their EVF camera to look like an M . . . and so would the people who want an extra camera to shoot wide angle and telephoto lenses. Don't you think? 7 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted October 4 Share #2869 Posted October 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: Why? The Q doesn't have IBIS. I thought the Q2 & Q3 have IBIS, or is it OIS? Edited October 4 by Planetwide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 4 Share #2870 Posted October 4 33 minutes ago, Mute-on said: Although once an in body shutter is incorporated, any cost benefit would probably be largely eroded. There isn't room for a shutter in a Q body! Maybe all this is just rumours 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted October 4 Share #2871 Posted October 4 1 minute ago, jonoslack said: Oh! I think you're quite wrong here - there is so much cool associated with the M design - disguising it as a 70 year old camera will bring in lots of buyers, but making it look like something else and it would just be an EVF camera with no AF (and who wants one of those). . . . and even if you aren't looking at 'cool' those old guys who can't focus rangefinders will want their EVF camera to look like an M . . . and so would the people who want an extra camera to shoot wide angle and telephoto lenses. Don't you think? Somebody had to put it out there. Truth! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4 Share #2872 Posted October 4 1 minute ago, jonoslack said: Oh! I think you're quite wrong here - there is so much cool associated with the M design - disguising it as a 70 year old camera will bring in lots of buyers, but making it look like something else and it would just be an EVF camera with no AF (and who wants one of those). . . . and even if you aren't looking at 'cool' those old guys who can't focus rangefinders will want their EVF camera to look like an M . . . and so would the people who want an extra camera to shoot wide angle and telephoto lenses. Don't you think? I used to at the beginning of the EVF-M adventure. I did like the simple idea of an M camera with the RF replaced by an EVF. Now the feeling i have is that this simple idea is not in force in Wetzlar any more, but i have no info about that admittedly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 4 Share #2873 Posted October 4 2 minutes ago, lct said: I used to at the beginning of the EVF-M adventure. I did like the simple idea of an M camera with the RF replaced by an EVF. Now the feeling i have is that this simple idea is not in force in Wetzlar any more, but i have no info about that admittedly. Well, Leica Rumours seems to get it wrong so completely and convincingly that I wonder whether Peter feels that he gets more clicks by reporting bollocks . . . but hey . . what do I know? I have a suspicion that this whole EVF M thing is a hoax which won't happen . . . only thing I'm sure of is that Leica Rumours will be wrong! 6 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexffm Posted October 4 Share #2874 Posted October 4 Looking at the signs, it really won't be long before the new EV1 arrives. No M11-P in black or silver is currently available from the factory, only what's available in local stores. We'll see how good the EVF really is in an M. Leica certainly won't make the same mistake with the M5 again and present decades-old customers with a completely new camera... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 4 Share #2875 Posted October 4 On 10/3/2025 at 8:16 PM, Robert Blanko said: You may see the significant difference also in the top view. At least for the Q2. But that reduction in size is quite impossible on an M lens camera as the flange-sensor distance is a fixed value and the sensor of the M10 is already as close up to the rear as possible 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsung Posted October 4 Share #2876 Posted October 4 (edited) Everyone has both understands that M and Q are significantly different. so a M with Evf does not equal to a Q with M mount, the later will be more interesting especially who has a lot of spare M lenses Edited October 4 by Jsung Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 4 Share #2877 Posted October 4 Maybe, but the mount would stick out quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 5 Share #2878 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, Planetwide said: I thought the Q2 & Q3 have IBIS, or is it OIS? OIS for all Q variants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roma Posted October 5 Share #2879 Posted October 5 I can see Leica doing a Q-M successfully with interchangeable M lenses, IBIS, and a tilting display for a travel camera that will work with all kinds of focal lengths. I only have M cameras, but I would consider something like this if the price was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted October 5 Author Share #2880 Posted October 5 (edited) Damn I got excited about a new line for a moment but after Jono’s comment, I’m going back to an M11-D top plate design, the Leica red dot where the window ‘should’ be and everything else the same as an M11. SL3 EVF built in. I’m also blocking Leica Rumours 🤣 Edited October 5 by costa43 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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