Goodbye, M11!

[Smogg]

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Just now, jaapv said:

You delete it whilst he is looking.

What is he looking at? On the back of the M11-D?😂

[fenykepesz]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb jaapv:

You delete it whilst he is looking.

delete it on my m11d...?

[NigelG]

“Just say No”

[pedaes]

8 minutes ago, Smogg said:

What do you do when the person you just photographed on the street asks you to delete the photo?😀

They will think it is a film camera so all will be good in the world.

[hdmesa]

9 minutes ago, Smogg said:

What do you do when the person you just photographed on the street asks you to delete the photo?😀

Fire up the FOTOS app, show them the photo, and see if they like it? 

Some other responses that might generate some goodwill:

• Should I also delete the photos I took of your mom last night?
• Drop the camera to your side and flip them the double bird🖕🖕
• Don't be so negative, it's just film.

 

[DadDadDaddyo]

They should make one with a little monitor on the back so you could see the pictures you've taken, if you need to...

[T I N O]

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vor 7 Stunden schrieb LocalHero1953:

I have a mind and eye that isn't disturbed by the difference between EVF and OVF.

I'm jealous (seriously)!

To me it still feels like looking at a screen that's really close to my eye, the whole experience is just so different compared to looking through an optical finder..

[LocalHero1953]

In my professional life (geology) I often had to look at stereo pairs of aerial photographs. I started out using a stereo spectacle viewer, but when out in the field  I found it handy to just carry the photographs: I trained my eyes to diverge, one to each print. It's a useful skill to have (with the penalty, at the time, of eye strain and headaches!)

[Tseg]

5 hours ago, Smogg said:

What do you do when the person you just photographed on the street asks you to delete the photo?😀

There is the “it’s just film” option, the “see on my iPhone option”, or the “Run, Forest, run” option.  With so many options, I’ll ask the disgruntled what they prefer.

[aficionados]

7 hours ago, Smogg said:

What do you do when the person you just photographed on the street asks you to delete the photo?😀

As long as it’s public space and you are photographing the scene which you eyes can see without any parts of your body trespassing any private space, no one can force you to delete the photo.

[jdlaing]

7 hours ago, Smogg said:

What do you do when the person you just photographed on the street asks you to delete the photo?😀

It would depend on who that person was.

[Tseg]

49 minutes ago, jdlaing said:

It would depend on who that person was.

Luckily, everyone is kinder and gentler in Detroit.

[IkarusJohn]

6 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

In my professional life (geology) I often had to look at stereo pairs of aerial photographs. I started out using a stereo spectacle viewer, but when out in the field  I found it handy to just carry the photographs: I trained my eyes to diverge, one to each print. It's a useful skill to have (with the penalty, at the time, of eye strain and headaches!)

Not sure I can achieve this.  If I’m tired and relax a bit, one eye drifts off and I get double vision.  If I have one eye in the camera viewfinder, and the other looking around the side of the camera, I could not get the images to match up …

[jakontil]

10 hours ago, satijntje said:

I also went back to the M10 platform 

Interesting.. what made you? 

[LocalHero1953]

6 hours ago, IkarusJohn said:

Not sure I can achieve this.  If I’m tired and relax a bit, one eye drifts off and I get double vision.  If I have one eye in the camera viewfinder, and the other looking around the side of the camera, I could not get the images to match up …

I don't claim to align the VF and external world with two roving eyes - I just meant that I use the left eye when I occasionally want to see what might come into the frame.

[IkarusJohn]

11 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I don't claim to align the VF and external world with two roving eyes - I just meant that I use the left eye when I occasionally want to see what might come into the frame.

I’m sure it’s possible, though isn’t it?

[LocalHero1953]

1 minute ago, IkarusJohn said:

I’m sure it’s possible, though isn’t it?

I have tried to do this, but the VF in the SL2-S does not appear to be at 1:1 magnification - I can't remember how it differs - I'll check later.

[costa43]

On 11/24/2024 at 6:00 PM, SrMi said:

Here is a reminder of M11's advantages.

- Much improved live view and EVF

- Improved PDR (1 stop at base ISO)

- Triple-resolution modes.

- Multi-field metering with rangefinder.

- Lower base ISO (shooting wide in bright light).

- Electronic shutter (sharper images with longer lenses, less noise, even higher shutter speed when shooting in bright light).

- Much better battery life.

- Long exposure (up to 60 min) works really well.

- Lighter camera body (black).

- In-camera body charging.

- More buttons, similar setup as SL2

- Quick battery and SD card access.

- Theoretically, there is better flare resistance as the chamber has more room.

M10s are still great cameras, especially if used mostly as rangefinders.

It’s not so black and white in Leica Land. Some of us see a few of these ‘improvements’ as negatives. For me personally, I prefer a totally stripped back rangefinder experience, I prefer classic metering, I understand it’s not as accurate in all suituations but it’s what I’m used to when using a rangefinder. For similar nostalgic reasons I prefer the base plate, it’s a more classic look. Something highlighted when looking at the m11 glossy black design which seems a bit meh with the aluminium battery top bit wearing down to silver. I do not want triple resolution, it gives me one more thing to consider, even if you could just ignore it, in the back of my mind it’s there. Somewhat more contentious is that I don’t even want live view at all. It feels like a compromise, either give me an evf built in or a pure film like experience. In my opinion, the m10 generation is the strongest overall, the m11 is just a bit too ‘hybrid’ for me.
 

With screen less digital although I’ve never owned one. The md typ 262 appeals the most when it comes to the experience (bar its dimensions). It’s a shame Leica felt like they had to give us more after this release with the D series. If anyone has one for sale. Send me DM 😊 
 

 

[SrMi]

6 hours ago, costa43 said:

It’s not so black and white in Leica Land. Some of us see a few of these ‘improvements’ as negatives. For me personally, I prefer a totally stripped back rangefinder experience, I prefer classic metering, I understand it’s not as accurate in all suituations but it’s what I’m used to when using a rangefinder.

That makes sense. However, you can set M11's metering to center-weighted metering, supposedly giving the same metering results as the rangefinder mode in M10 (I have not tested it).

 

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[hdmesa]

7 hours ago, costa43 said:

It’s not so black and white in Leica Land. Some of us see a few of these ‘improvements’ as negatives. For me personally, I prefer a totally stripped back rangefinder experience, I prefer classic metering, I understand it’s not as accurate in all suituations but it’s what I’m used to when using a rangefinder. For similar nostalgic reasons I prefer the base plate, it’s a more classic look. Something highlighted when looking at the m11 glossy black design which seems a bit meh with the aluminium battery top bit wearing down to silver. I do not want triple resolution, it gives me one more thing to consider, even if you could just ignore it, in the back of my mind it’s there. Somewhat more contentious is that I don’t even want live view at all. It feels like a compromise, either give me an evf built in or a pure film like experience. In my opinion, the m10 generation is the strongest overall, the m11 is just a bit too ‘hybrid’ for me.
 

With screen less digital although I’ve never owned one. The md typ 262 appeals the most when it comes to the experience (bar its dimensions). It’s a shame Leica felt like they had to give us more after this release with the D series. If anyone has one for sale. Send me DM 😊 
 

 

I don't think we have confirmation either way about the M11 Glossy Black's battery cover metal type do we? Who will be the first to test that for us? 🫣