LocalHero1953 Posted January 16 Share #341 Posted January 16 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Direct record to external SSD. Together with the tilt screen and CFe this improves practicality of lightweight video recording. But still no internal (or SSD) raw video recording - only via HDMI. Edited January 16 by LocalHero1953 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BernardC Posted January 16 Share #342 Posted January 16 It seems to be what most people wanted. AF now uses phase-detect in addition to contrast-detect, and speed has been improved overall. 4K 60p is now available in video, which should please those who kept asking for that (I'm a 24fps guy myself). Several 6K modes are also supported, including one that covers the full sensor (5952x3968). The next question is "how does it perform?" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted January 16 Share #343 Posted January 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BernardC said: "how does it perform? Waiting for @jonoslack & co to enter the scene(s)... 😉 Edited January 16 by helged 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt736 Posted January 16 Share #344 Posted January 16 Any minute now............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 16 Share #345 Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, helged said: Waiting for @jonoslack & co to enter the scene(s)... 😉 He's not really a video guy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted January 16 Share #346 Posted January 16 Here you go… plus a review by @MediaFotografie 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Baraka Posted January 16 Share #347 Posted January 16 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phojomatic Posted January 16 Share #348 Posted January 16 Waiting for the reporter version 🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 16 Share #349 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, BernardC said: It seems to be what most people wanted. AF now uses phase-detect in addition to contrast-detect, and speed has been improved overall. 4K 60p is now available in video, which should please those who kept asking for that (I'm a 24fps guy myself). Several 6K modes are also supported, including one that covers the full sensor (5952x3968). The next question is "how does it perform?" 6K Open gate is only in H.265 and internal, sensor readout 25.5ms, 4.2.0 10 bit HDMI-RAW has a minor crop 1.02 and up to 6K 29.97 sensor readout 21.3ms HDMI-RAW C4K has a crop 1.45 ONLY APS-C and, a sensor readout 14ms 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALScott Posted January 16 Share #350 Posted January 16 It's on the way!!!! Can't wait! Same layout and menus would have been almost enough for me. Looks like AF is really better and that's what I was looking for. Hate to hear "tracking" needs work but it's not a critical need. AFc improvements were though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted January 16 Share #351 Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, Photoworks said: HDMI-RAW C4K has a crop 1.45 ONLY APS-C and, a sensor readout 14ms That's because it's raw, so you get a 4096 x 2160 crop from the full 6000 x 4000 sensor. There is another full-width C4K mode available (20ms readout). 14ms Super 35 and 20ms 24x36 are very good numbers. The S5ii is around 25ms. That's one indication that it's not just a re-labeled Lumix. 10 minutes ago, Photoworks said: 6K Open gate is only in H.265 and internal There is a C6K 17:9 Prores external option at a whopping 1939Mbps! CFE-only for internal, but you can use an SSD too. Personally, I would only use open gate for social media, where HEVC is sufficient, but others have different use cases. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_hsn Posted January 16 Share #352 Posted January 16 (edited) I checked out the camera, and all its specs had already been revealed. While the specifications look solid on paper, there are numerous aspects that need real-world testing first. Here are some notable points for me: Compared to the SL2-S, I did not like the new SL3(-S) grip at all. It is almost uncomfortable (for my hands) - This cannot be experienced through reading the spec sheet. Many video formats come with a crop (e.g. ProRes – not only ProResRaw), which is a significant downside for me — I strongly dislike cropped video formats. Besides: there are sooo many options regarding video codecs, I think they should rather re-focus again on "the essentials" / "Das Wesentliche". The AF was ok, but not lightning quick in the darker environment --> Needs to be properly tested though, especially for video ... Edited January 16 by simon_hsn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 16 Share #353 Posted January 16 14 minutes ago, simon_hsn said: I checked out the camera, and all its specs had already been revealed. While the specifications look solid on paper, there are numerous aspects that need real-world testing first. Here are some notable points for me: Compared to the SL2-S, I did not like the new SL3(-S) grip at all. It is almost uncomfortable (for my hands) - This cannot be experienced through reading the spec sheet. Many video formats come with a crop (e.g. ProRes – not only ProResRaw), which is a significant downside for me — I strongly dislike cropped video formats. Besides: there are sooo many options regarding video codecs, I think they should rather re-focus again on "the essentials" / "Das Wesentliche". The AF was ok, but not lightning quick in the darker environment --> Needs to be properly tested though, especially for video ... From the other reviews, it is hard to understand banding and aliasing in videos and photos. The AF is still an enigma when what is activated. I have been using SL3 since it came out, and in regular shooting, I don't see the significant improvements I was hoping for over the SL2 There are some Prores without Crops. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/413145-leica-sl3-s-incoming/?do=findComment&comment=5740606'>More sharing options...
simon_hsn Posted January 16 Share #354 Posted January 16 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Photoworks said: From the other reviews, it is hard to understand banding and aliasing in videos and photos. The AF is still an enigma when what is activated. I have been using SL3 since it came out, and in regular shooting, I don't see the significant improvements I was hoping for over the SL2 There are some Prores without Crops. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The camera disappoints by not offering 50/60p recording without a crop. This is unacceptable, especially when other recent cameras from Nikon, Canon, and similar brands provide this feature at half the price. Even worse, 120p in 4K isn’t available—not even in a cropped mode—leaving users stuck with 1080p. It feels like Leica just reused the same sensor with its inherent limitations, adding only a faster processor and improved card support to enable features like ProRes recording. Unfortunately, the same real-world drawbacks, such as the crop factor, remain unchanged. Edited January 16 by simon_hsn 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 16 Share #355 Posted January 16 Looks like I will want to keep my Canon R3 for sports and my SL3 as my flexible all-round camera. Still interested to follow upcoming reviews about AF etc. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 16 Share #356 Posted January 16 Reading specs and viewing some already posted video/written reviews, am I right by saying that this model is mainly for video and action photographers ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeping_a_balance Posted January 16 Share #357 Posted January 16 Chris Nichols roasted the camera on the PetaPixel video. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebas_ Posted January 16 Share #358 Posted January 16 I have had the SL2, sold it after some years, got quite heavy. As a stop gap I have bought a Panasonic S5II. Other than high MP and all the Design and Layout the Panasonic outperformed the SL2. Have had high hopes about the SL3, but was kinda disappointed. I have kept the S5II for the time being but added a M11-P, really like the smaller and lighter setup - completely different approach to photography as the SL line, I know. On the flip side my M11-P currently gets replaced as it would now be its third trip to Wetzlar.... I really had hoped that we see something new in the SL3-S. A new fast sensor, a much improved AF etc. something in the direction of an upcoming Panasonic S1H successor, but it seems that the SL3-S is more following the S5IIx. I am really fond of Leica, but I am not quite that impressed. The SL line seems now extremely bad priced compared to the competition and I do not see that much of a USP for it. I hope the replacement M11-P will be trouble free, as I do enjoy it much, when it works. I will hold on the S5II for now, but I will not invest in the L-mount system anymore for the time being. Let's see what Panasonic will release in the next months. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted January 16 Share #359 Posted January 16 17 minutes ago, Genoweffa said: Reading specs and viewing some already posted video/written reviews, am I right by saying that this model is mainly for video and action photographers ? The SL3 is for maximum resolution. The SL3-S is for higher speed and video. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted January 16 Share #360 Posted January 16 2 hours ago, BernardC said: It seems to be what most people wanted. AF now uses phase-detect in addition to contrast-detect, and speed has been improved overall. 4K 60p is now available in video, which should please those who kept asking for that (I'm a 24fps guy myself). Several 6K modes are also supported, including one that covers the full sensor (5952x3968). The next question is "how does it perform?" 4K 60p was always available in video. This STILL does not do 4K 60p at the full width of the sensor. So no, it does not address video concerns. It's S5IIx in a Leica body. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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