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1 hour ago, jaapv said:

Presuming that one can produce individually curved silicon wafers to accommodate complicated curved planes of focus.  And what will happen to the OOF rendering? 

That what is claimed Sony has achieved. As lens design and sensor curvature has to be optimized together the convoluted curved planes of focus which arise in the optical design for a flat image plane  should be not an issue. The OOF should be from center to edge similar. What I don‘t understand with that technology is focusing, maybe only IF works with rear elements stationary. Our eye has spherical sensor and focuses by changing lens curvature (one of the problems with getting old) and IF has a similar effect by changing focal length but not distance to sensor.

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Interesting move on Leica, seems like they are following the excellent steps of Ricoh with the GR III (28mm equiv) and GR IIIx (40mm equiv). I used to have both ricohs and would take them out as a combo, exact same settings, just like if I was swapping lenses (but swapped cameras instead). Great combo for street and casual shooting. 

The interesting part is that when I got home, 90% of my shots would have been with the 28mm focal length, with just a few cropped shots in camera to 35mm or 50mm. 

So in the end I learned that my favorite focal length has evolved over the years from 50mm to 35mm and now from 35mm to 28mm. 

I did sell the 2 Ricohs and got the Q3 instead, very happy with the results, would not consider a 43mm Q3 at all for my style of shooting.

 

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44 minutes ago, cirke said:

unfortunately Q or M are made only for right-eye dominants 

I am left eye dominant since receiving serious facial injuries amongst others in a racing car accident in 1971. I had been using Leica cameras since I was old enough to hold either my father's or grandfather's Leicas in the 1950s (both of which I still have) and have been using Leicas (LTM, M, S and Q) with my left eye since 1971 with no problems other than having to clean the rear LCD screens regularly. 

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13 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

I am left eye dominant since receiving serious facial injuries amongst others in a racing car accident in 1971. I had been using Leica cameras since I was old enough to hold either my father's or grandfather's Leicas in the 1950s (both of which I still have) and have been using Leicas (LTM, M, S and Q) with my left eye since 1971 with no problems other than having to clean the rear LCD screens regularly. 

Wilson

I am left eye is dominant, and I can't think of any good reason to squash my nose on  the screen. and pay for it ! , I am using a Leica M since M9, and finally left everything for my iPhone  which is the best camera I've ever owned

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11 minutes ago, cirke said:

I am left eye is dominant, and I can't think of any good reason to squash my nose on  the screen. and pay for it ! , I am using a Leica M since M9, and finally left everything for my iPhone  which is the best camera I've ever owned

The D versions of the M seems to be made for you…

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1 hour ago, cirke said:

unfortunately Q or M are made only for right-eye dominants 

All Leica LTM, M and Q series cameras are in fact designed primarily for left eye dominant photographers. They put the viewfinder on the left where it comes naturally to your eye while you brace the camera steadily against your face. Right-eyed photographers have to deal with the camera flopping about while they attempt to use it off to one side. Unfortunately the M3 designers didn't read all of Oskar Barnack's secret memo and came up with a wind-on lever that was more difficult for the left-eyed to use than the original knob, which could be turned with the camera in the shooting position. This with rectified in the digital era, except for the M10-D, where a pretend wind-on lever was included by a mischievous designer to troll left-eyed users who were looking forward to using a camera with no screen to smudge. Meanwhile, reports that thousands of left-eyed FM and FE series photographers intend to bring a class action suit against Nikon for discrimination, having been poked in their right eyes every day since the late 70s when pulling out the wind-on lever to the stand-off position to unlock their cameras, are unconfirmed at this time.

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1 hour ago, cirke said:

unfortunately Q or M are made only for right-eye dominants 

I am left eye dominant and trained myself to use M cameras with my right eye. Took two months and now it's completely natural to shoot a normal mirrorless using my left eye and an M, Q etc, using my right. Been shooting this way for well over 20 years.

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2 hours ago, cirke said:

unfortunately Q or M are made only for right-eye dominants 

Another left eye dominant here, and I also wear glasses, which makes things even worse. I agree it is a bit uncomfortable, but it’s not the end of the world.
But I suppose it also depend on how big your nose is. 

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1 hour ago, cirke said:

I am left eye is dominant, and I can't think of any good reason to squash my nose on  the screen. and pay for it ! , I am using a Leica M since M9, and finally left everything for my iPhone  which is the best camera I've ever owned

Yuck. No camera is as inconvenient to use as an iPhone, and I use it regularly. Most cameras also have live view. 

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I am excited about the Leica Q3 43 and AF.

It is a little more "challenging" to make a good portrait with a 43 f2 than with a 28mm at some distance.

My Q3 may well have difficulty with eye focus - hitting the eye closest and just hitting the focus in the right eye.

Anyone know and AF is exactly the same by as Q3?

However, I have "ordered" my Q3 43 because I am super happy with my Q3 28. We'll have to see if the rumors are true 😉

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Ah yes, the iPhone, so comfortable to use with one hand, especially in winter. Take iPhone from pocket, remove your gloves, remove your scarf if you want to use Face ID, turn it horizontally, tap to focus. Terrific user experience. 
I prefer to squeeze my nose and use the Q or any other cameras, and use the phone occasionally for the non-essential shot. 

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1 hour ago, cirke said:

good for you but i won't pay anymore for that , Ive got all what I need why my iPhone 15 pro max 

IF a Q3 monochromes comes some day ill maybe reconsider buying a camera

If you now only use iPhone 15 (and the camera on the 16 is supposed to be much better) why are you still active on a camera forum?  Not criticising, as all opinions and contributions are welcome, just curious.

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1 hour ago, cirke said:

good for you but i won't pay anymore for that , Ive got all what I need why my iPhone 15 pro max 

IF a Q3 monochromes comes some day ill maybe reconsider buying a camera

You're going to love this model.

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I'm reticent to contribute to this off-topic discussion, but a rangefinder is perfect for left-eye dominant people (LED).  Being LED doesn't mean you're blind in the right eye (except possibly in Mr. Laidlaw's case, sorry to hear), but it does allow the brain to superimpose the real world seen through the left eye (which the brain will prioritize) with the world as seen through the viewfinder with the right eye.  So, you can keep both eyes open.  For right eye dominant people using their right eye in the viewfinder, they don't experience this superimposition since the brain de-emphasizes information coming from the left eye.  This is one of the advantages of the rangefinder system.  It takes a little getting used to, but works really well.  Like learning to cross your eyes to look at 3-D pictures.

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