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New challenger : X100 VI vs Q3 in 35mm crop mode

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Just now, SrMi said:

Are you using your Q and M with a grip? I do not.

I don’t have neither a Q nor a M. Sold both long time ago. SL2-S user here. But when I did have them, I had to buy a grip, I always found both cameras to be very uncomfortable to hold, and after a while my right hand was sore. And while I’m sure it’s ok for other people, the popularity of grips and thumb rests specifically designed for Q and M cameras tell me I’m not the only one to have this issue. 

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25 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

I don’t have neither a Q nor a M. Sold both long time ago. SL2-S user here. But when I did have them, I had to buy a grip, I always found both cameras to be very uncomfortable to hold, and after a while my right hand was sore. And while I’m sure it’s ok for other people, the popularity of grips and thumb rests specifically designed for Q and M cameras tell me I’m not the only one to have this issue. 

My guess is that most M owners (film and digital) do not use a grip. Dito for Q. It is good that it is available as an option—Dito for the battery grip for SL2-S. The most comfortable in-hand cameras I owned were the Nikon  D series. However, their size and weight did not compensate for the comfort benefits.

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1 hour ago, Simone_DF said:

I personally find the Q and the M to have by far the worst ergonomics of any camera on the market. 
There’s a good reason why there are so many topics regarding adding a hand grip or a thumb rest, and these additional accessories are not so massively diffused for other brands. 

I feel exactly the opposite. Throughout my career I used Nikon and Canon sytems for most assignment work but always had my M systems for personal work. It's true that a thumb grip helps (as it would with any 35mm camera) but even without one the M has always been far more comfortable in my hand than the Nikons and Canons. 

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17 minutes ago, fotografr said:

I feel exactly the opposite. Throughout my career I used Nikon and Canon sytems for most assignment work but always had my M systems for personal work. It's true that a thumb grip helps (as it would with any 35mm camera) but even without one the M has always been far more comfortable in my hand than the Nikons and Canons. 

Dito. That is why you and I still own M cameras, and Simone_DF does not. 

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2 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

I personally find the Q and the M to have by far the worst ergonomics of any camera on the market. 
There’s a good reason why there are so many topics regarding adding a hand grip or a thumb rest, and these additional accessories are not so massively diffused for other brands. 

Do you mean ergonomics or UI?

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2 hours ago, SrMi said:

Dito. That is why you and I still own M cameras, and Simone_DF does not. 

Well, I sold it because I don’t really like rangefinders and prefer autofocus, though I kept a Voigtlander Bessa R2A for film. 
The Q, the M and the Bessa are fine by me with a grip, even a small one, but I need something my fingers can hold onto. 

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7 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

The Fuji though has an additional adapter for 50mm, so the user can choose to crop or to mount the adapter and shot in 50mm mode without any crop. 

I have used 28mm and 50mm adapter many times with my x100v and their corner performances were pretty bad unfortunately. Without any crop but crop mode with q is far better than fujifilm adapters.

Anyway if you use it for casual street photography, its a great camera. I think VI will be much better. But if you demand more details, than q series are shining for that purpose. Prices are also shining of course like a diamond :D 

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Black or chrome choice.  
 

A great camera to buy and then upgrade to the Q3.  
 

The Q2 popularity created the stampede to the X100v, for its affordability. 

I bet to differ. The original X100 was already very popular not to mention it's successors way before the original Q. It created a stir in the photography industry when it was launch. This X100VI as I know exceed the expectations for preorder. In my opinion is a good sign for compact camera segment which I hope will encourage manufacturer to design similar compact to compete with Fuji.

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10 minutes ago, SrMi said:

The sad part is that most X100 owners do not use OVF, which is the only reasons why X100 could be considered a challenger. The EVF in X100V is abysmal, in my experience.

Guilty as charged.  In 10 years with the X100S I've used the OVF maybe 5 times.  😛

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13 minutes ago, SrMi said:

The sad part is that most X100 owners do not use OVF, which is the only reasons why X100 could be considered a challenger. The EVF in X100V is abysmal, in my experience.

Yes, it’s also a mystery to me: why buy x100v and use EVF? Isn't it cheaper to buy the X-E4?

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1 minute ago, Smogg said:

Yes, it’s also a mystery to me: why buy x100v and use EVF? Isn't it cheaper to buy the X-E4?

I made a conscious choice to get the fixed lens X100S because I knew if I had a body with interchangeable lenses I'd go crazy.  

It worked for a little while.  Never liked the OVF - I loved the WYSIWYG nature of the EVF even though the X100x EVFs aren't really all that great.

 

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2 minutes ago, liggy said:

I made a conscious choice to get the fixed lens X100S because I knew if I had a body with interchangeable lenses I'd go crazy.  

It worked for a little while.  Never liked the OVF - I loved the WYSIWYG nature of the EVF even though the X100x EVFs aren't really all that great.

 

It's surprising that people don't notice the fundamental difference between photographing the living world and cutting out a screenshot from a video sequence. For some reason, most people prefer to watch movies and take screenshots. 
I feel like when I shoot with the OVF I'm freezing time, a living moment, and when I'm using the EVF I'm doing photo editing.

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3 minutes ago, Smogg said:

It's surprising that people don't notice the fundamental difference between photographing the living world and cutting out a screenshot from a video sequence. For some reason, most people prefer to watch movies and take screenshots. 
I feel like when I shoot with the OVF I'm freezing time, a living moment, and when I'm using the EVF I'm doing photo editing.

lol.. you're talking to the wrong guy.  Latest toy is the Apple Vision Pro.  🤣

I absolutely love the EVF in some of the latest Sonys.  The 9.44M dot, zero blackout, large magnification view is awesome.  

My technique with a RF is poor so I'm better at capturing moments with an EVF.  

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3 minutes ago, liggy said:

lol.. you're talking to the wrong guy.  Latest toy is the Apple Vision Pro.  🤣

I absolutely love the EVF in some of the latest Sonys.  The 9.44M dot, zero blackout, large magnification view is awesome.  

My technique with a RF is poor so I'm better at capturing moments with an EVF.  

OVF in x100 is not RF, you can continue to use AF. RF is unrelated to OVF vs EVF experience, though RF requires and OVF.

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8 minutes ago, SrMi said:

If you prefer EVF, you are better of using a CL with 23mm lens

I'm shooting an A7RV and A1 with the 35 1.4 GM lens.  Both of those bodies have the 9.44M dot EVF that I believe is best in class.  Never tried the CL.

For crop I really love the X-T5 with the Voigtlander 23 1.2 lens.  That is a sweet combination.  It might be sacrilege here but I prefer the dials on the X-T5 to the Leica controls. 🙃

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