New challenger : X100 VI vs Q3 in 35mm crop mode

[JTLeica]

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5 minutes ago, AussieQ said:

lol...'Professional'...???????????

I mean, how isn’t it professional then?

Could you not sell images from a 40mp APSC camera? I have sold images from much less.

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[GREG PLAT]

25 minutes ago, AussieQ said:

lol...'Professional'...???????????

https://erickimphotography.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Leica-Manual.pdf

"When people ask me what equipment I use – I tell them my eyes"Jacob Sobol

[SrMi]

34 minutes ago, AussieQ said:

lol...'Professional'...???????????

What is it missing to be considered a professional camera by you? Do you consider cameras with fixed lenses as non-professional? Do you consider Fuji cameras in general as non-professional?

[Qwertynm]

I'd argue even a Fuji Instax camera becomes a 'professional tool' when it's used by a wedding photographer selling his or her images to people. My Q3 is not a professional tool because I sell 0 images. It's just a nice gadget for me as a hobbyist. Same as a 911 GT 3 RS can be a race car a or an extension of a small ego.

[Miltz]

13 pages of people bickering. Smh. Not sure what purpose any of this solves. No one is here to change their mind, only to tell others what they think and how they are wrong. Perhaps the mods should move such topics to a different section and it does the entire forum a disservice. 

Edited March 1, 2024 by Miltz

[Simone_DF]

10 hours ago, SrMi said:

I believe he still shoots with his modified S (link), but the X100 is also one of his tools.

It makes sense. Use the right tool for the right situation etc etc.

[JTLeica]

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Greg - I think you should just buy the Q3, tinker with the JPG settings until you are happy (I can look over the weekend to see whats adjustable for you) and just enjoy it... The worst thing to do would be not buy it, then spend forever wondering about, and talking about buying it. 

The Q3 will give you a 28mm FF 60MP shot, a 40MP 35mm APSC image, and a roughly 20+MP 50mm image... higher res than you 16MP Ricoh that you are happy with... The lens is a beast too, and will take enlargement and 'upscaling' just fine.

Just do it, sir, that is an order.

But I will have a play with the JPG output and see if I can get anything suitable, do you just shoot black and white in JPG straight from the camera, or convert?

Edited March 1, 2024 by JTLeica

[GREG PLAT]

5 hours ago, JTLeica said:

Greg - I think you should just buy the Q3, tinker with the JPG settings until you are happy (I can look over the weekend to see whats adjustable for you) and just enjoy it... The worst thing to do would be not buy it, then spend forever wondering about, and talking about buying it. 

The Q3 will give you a 28mm FF 60MP shot, a 40MP 35mm APSC image, and a roughly 20+MP 50mm image... higher res than you 16MP Ricoh that you are happy with... The lens is a beast too, and will take enlargement and 'upscaling' just fine.

Just do it, sir, that is an order.

But I will have a play with the JPG output and see if I can get anything suitable, do you just shoot black and white in JPG straight from the camera, or convert?

will shoot black and white straight from the camera, i will shoot DNG color and jpg black and white. Ι like very much the high contrast black and white from Ricoh GRII. How can I have the same results straight from the camera from Q3 jpegs, can I change settings in black and white jpeg in Q3?

Ιs it possible then to edit the DNG file of Q3 and apply a filter, simulation tor whatever to have the great high contrast of  black and white of Ricoh GRII?

[Le Chef]

That’s two clicks away if you use Lightroom. One click to select B&W. Second click to change the tone curve to medium or high contrast. Done.

[JTLeica]

1 hour ago, GREG PLAT said:

will shoot black and white straight from the camera, i will shoot DNG color and jpg black and white. Ι like very much the high contrast black and white from Ricoh GRII. How can I have the same results straight from the camera from Q3 jpegs, can I change settings in black and white jpeg in Q3?

Ιs it possible then to edit the DNG file of Q3 and apply a filter, simulation tor whatever to have the great high contrast of  black and white of Ricoh GRII?

Yes of course Greg you can just design your own preset, takes maybe 100 seconds to do, once happy, save it and apply to all images you want to. It’s super simply. Theres no hard getting a solid BW jpg out of the camera, I’ll post some later on maybe if I have time, and can look at settings 

[ksrhee]

15 hours ago, GREG PLAT said:

Why Q3 is better from XT-5 with 18/1,4? Except the basics we read in a pdf? Are JPEG from Q3 better from XT5?

All I can say is "better" in many different respects in my experience.  However, I tend to look at the wholistic experience of photographing, and I have to say that my Q3 gives me so much more pleasure and delight over and over . . .

[BobsFirstLeica]

3 hours ago, AussieQ said:

This is a thread that started about someone trying to convince themselves that having a fuji camera mentioned is no different to a Leica Q3. Admins, moderators.....close this thread as it appears the topic is no longer Leica related and concentrates on a different branded camera. 

 

 

I do not support that.  When the Q3 was in such short supply (as it may be now....I don't know) there was a thread comparing it to the Sony A7CR as an alternative.  There were a number of posts comparing, contrasting not only the 2 but suggestions about purchasing an M if people had to wait an inordinately long time.  It was a good and respectful thread if memory serves.

There is little doubt the Q3 surpasses much of what Fuji offers, but for the price and performance, the X100V is an attractive small package.  If they put the quality in the X100VI that they put in the GFX100 ii I use, then so much the better.  Competition and choice is a good thing.  BTW AussieQ,  I own the Q3... owned the Q2 and would recommend them to anyone.

Bob

[Simone_DF]

5 hours ago, AussieQ said:

This is a thread that started about someone trying to convince themselves that having a fuji camera mentioned is no different to a Leica Q3.

It's not a matter of being "no different". The X100VI can be better than a Q, or worse than a Q, depending on what the user needs and what they are looking for. 

[Simone_DF]

@GREG PLAT there are already rumors circulating about a Ricoh GRIV announcement. In this interview from last December, a Ricoh GR designer hinted that an announcement is somewhat close. Since you have a GRII and you like it, perhaps it could be worth waiting and jump from your GRII to a GRIV.

[tom.w.bn]

Am 1.3.2024 um 08:37 schrieb Miltz:

13 pages of people bickering. Smh. Not sure what purpose any of this solves. No one is here to change their mind, only to tell others what they think and how they are wrong. Perhaps the mods should move such topics to a different section and it does the entire forum a disservice. 

I disagree. This is a good representation of all the "what should I buy" threads in this forum.

[FrozenInTime]

The Q3 now seems to be available from stock ; probably 12 months before the X100VI gets to that point.

The Q3 Monochrom cannot be far away; maybe Ricoh's response will be a GRIV line that includes monochrome.

That should be enough fuel to keep the gear debate needlessly going for months 😉 ... better off keeping behind the curve and shooting more film.

[GREG PLAT]

" I will use the camera as a tool to create contact, closeness and intimacy. I want to meet people, to connect with the cities, to make the places mine, even if it’s just for a short while."

JACOB AUE SOBOL

https://leica-camera.blog/2012/05/11/j-aue-sobol-installement-n1-2/

[JTLeica]

16 hours ago, AussieQ said:

This is a thread that started about someone trying to convince themselves that having a fuji camera mentioned is no different to a Leica Q3. Admins, moderators.....close this thread as it appears the topic is no longer Leica related and concentrates on a different branded camera. 

 

 

Who cares if the end result is that someone buys another brand, this isn’t an elitist forum that only lives breathes and thinks about Leica.

Opinions on other brands is not illegal… You should apply to be a moderator, wouldn’t be many threads open

Edited March 2, 2024 by JTLeica

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[pnwpotter]

For thirty five years I’ve been shooting with Leica M.

M4, M6, MP, Monochrom, M246 and now M10M.

Tried the Q … five times, and never connected … sold them all. 

Tried the X100V. Dealer loaned me the camera for a trip to Santa Fe. I was impressed. I saw it as a camera I could take with and not have to worry about, a “beat the shit out of” camera, that was waterproof, and fit the way I shoot. 

But I was told to wait, there was a new camera coming. 

Using a Leica shouldn’t be a club for elitist … that’s how Leica gets the stench of snobbery. 

[Driften]

25 minutes ago, pnwpotter said:

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Tried the X100V. Dealer loaned me the camera for a trip to Santa Fe. I was impressed. I saw it as a camera I could take with and not have to worry about, a “beat the shit out of” camera, that was waterproof, and fit the way I shoot. 

 

Realize the X100 series isn't weather resistant unless you add a filter adapter and filter to the lens. I think the smallest I was able to do on the X100V was additional 10mm of length added to the lens.