SL2S FW6.0

[Photoworks]

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it is coming soon, so they told me, it is nothing revolutionary because the SL3 already has the same options.

[deep_blue]

Am 10.11.2024 um 02:25 schrieb LeicaR10:

Crem,  To answer your question, my 2 sources are two different Leica dealers, one US and other Australia.  I also got an email from a Leica senior program manager who wrote they were surprised at the push back from SL users as they thought the joystick feature wasn't used much by users.  He also wrote Leica would reinstate the feature at a later firmware update.  That was last December...   So, considering all the issues with firmware with the M11 and SL3 etc back then, the SL2 firmware update was put on the back burner. (One has to put out the largest fires firsts, so to say)  Whether or not the SL2 magnification feature returns in December, like many things these days, I take with a grain of salt.   I believe you can use the top half of the front button for magnification on the SL2 and SL2-S with 6.0, but the joystick clearly is a winning and much beloved feature.  Maybe next time, Leica will do a survey and ASK what features are most used and least used by photographers before making changes to important firmware.  Again, holding one's breath is an option, but this does have consequences....   r/ Mark

My source is Leica customer support in Wetzlar, who told me in August that this will be included in the next update, expected for the end of November.

Be patient - Christmas is coming soon 🎅

Edited November 12, 2024 by deep_blue

[Carrot]

If the SL-2S joystick magnification is restored, I'm wondering which way it will go.  Previously, it always went to level 2 magnification regardless of what level you last used, at least it did on mine.  This is different to the way magnification worked if you assigned it to a function button (in an on/off arrangement), because each time you turned it on it went back to the last level of magnification you were using (again, that's how my SL2-S worked).  My preference would be to go straight to the level you last used, but of course some people might prefer the original setup.  Further still, rather than simply restoring magnification to the joystick, why don't they simply make it another function button, and let us assign any function to it?

[jaapv]

My joystick produces Back Button Focus and magnification is on the top front Fn button which suits me perfectly. 

[jjesp]

On 11/12/2024 at 8:15 PM, deep_blue said:

My source is Leica customer support in Wetzlar, who told me in August that this will be included in the next update, expected for the end of November.

Be patient - Christmas is coming soon 🎅

Any news from your source? I am thinking we won't have more updates to the SL2 in the future, other than maybe if a new lens requires it. But on the other hand. The camera works with almost no quirks and faults. No freezing issues etc. So maybe its better not to make firmare updates that could ruin this. 

[deep_blue]

Leica Customer Service:

Zitat

Unfortunately, we do not have a date yet for the planned firmware update. The magnifier function will be reintegrated with the next update, please be patient a little longer. You will be informed via our website or a subscribed newsletter as soon as the update is publicly available.

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Edited December 3, 2024 by deep_blue

[jjesp]

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4 hours ago, deep_blue said:

Leica Customer Service:

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Thank you 🤗 So now no date. We will see next year.

[jaapv]

Strangely it works well on my SL2S on 6.0.0. 

[jjesp]

On 12/3/2024 at 2:24 PM, jaapv said:

Strangely it works well on my SL2S on 2.0.0. 

Yes, because Firmware 6.0.0 removed the existing function. So if you use it - don't update  

[jaapv]

Sorry typo. 6.0.0. I’ll correct. (And checked just now) I must have been moved in the menu with the update. However, I moved it to the wheel for ergonomic reasons, but the joystick works just fine as well. 

[insomnia]

No, it doesn't. We wouldn't have 16 pages and I don't know how many mails to Leica if it would. Maybe you have a third party adapter for your M lenses or you're mistaken what we're trying to achieve  

[jaapv]

Ah yes, I put magnification on wheel-press. Much more practical than the joystick so I never used it after the update. The joystick is back button focus.Ergonomically perfect.  
Sorry for the confusion. 

[costa43]

I use a ttartisan adapter and the joystick still works to punch in, annoyingly it does not punch out when pressed again but it's still more intuitive than using another button for me as I can move the focus point around with the same joystick. My official adapter sits on the shelf.

[Chris Nebard]

On 12/4/2024 at 9:33 PM, insomnia said:

No, it doesn't. We wouldn't have 16 pages and I don't know how many mails to Leica if it would. Maybe you have a third party adapter for your M lenses or you're mistaken what we're trying to achieve  

Correct. The whole point for many of us, while manual focusing M lenses, is that using the joystick to locate your focus box/point, then depressing it in one action to magnify, reduces the number of steps and, to some, is more intuitive than a) using the button to move the focus point, then b) moving your thumb to magnify using the rear wheel.
 

This is not to misunderstand those who prefer to use the rear wheel, that is their preference, but the choice shouldn’t have been removed. I never updated the software to 6.0.0 and so I still have the benefit of zooming in by using the joystick (and, yes, occasionally I do use the wheel). 

For those who prefer to use the joystick button for the function, and who upgraded to 6.0.0 in good faith, this must be bloody annoying. We’ve been discussing it, on this thread, for a year.  Peter Karbe himself recommends the SL series for M lenses and so to remove one of the aids supporting manual focus is a cock up at best. The fact that it’s now available on the SL3 points to the probability that this was a mistake. It needs sorting. Quickly. 

[Luke_Miller]

It is particularly frustrating to those who use the Joystick to initiate autofocus when using AF lenses.  The muscle memory remains even when a manual focus lens is mounted.

[insomnia]

Am 9.12.2024 um 14:19 schrieb Luke_Miller:

It is particularly frustrating to those who use the Joystick to initiate autofocus when using AF lenses.  The muscle memory remains even when a manual focus lens is mounted.

Well, you can still set it to AF-L + AE-L, not sure what the options were before. For me, this initiates auto-focus, but I don't use this.

Edited December 10, 2024 by insomnia

[padam]

Leica SL2/SL2-S 6.1.0

• EXTENDED FUNCTIONALITY: Supported lenses
• IMPROVEMENT: Profoto Connect Pro: Fixed an error when connecting to Profoto-Connect-Pro. Eye detection in AF mode: Eye detection during refocusing in video mode (AF mode, L-Log) has been improved. Magnification via joystick: In MF mode, magnification via joystick is possible again.

[jaapv]

It will be welcomed by some - for me personally - no need to install 🤩

[padam]

Since I've been lazy enough not to set up User Profiles, might as well do after this (most likely final) firmware, even though right now, it makes absolutely no difference either.

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[jjesp]

So that little bugfix took over a year - to a bug introduced by another firmware... Leica, I am not impressed here... But anyway. If someone here are installing it - let us know if the camera still works fine in the weeks to come. I will not be beta testing again but hopefully others will.