Leica M11 -purplish tint ???

[LeicaGuyUK]

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+5 towards green on my M11, theirs definitely variance between bodies but this seems to give me much better and consistent starting points for the white balance now. Seems mine isn’t so bad as some others but I’m glad the option is there and the images I’m getting now are pretty much the colours that I want out of camera

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[Steve Ash]

vor 17 Stunden schrieb CDodkin:

Neutral WB is not impossible Steve - the camera is fully capable of providing it with a calibrated target and in-camera WB

My point is I want perfect colors at standard lighting conditions such as bright sunny day. that means there should be no color shift, ie neutral tones. At times like sunset, blue hour whatsoever I do want to see the real life color shift. I do not know how a colordisc is helpful with that.

[CDodkin]

7 hours ago, Steve Ash said:

My point is I want perfect colors at standard lighting conditions such as bright sunny day. that means there should be no color shift, ie neutral tones. At times like sunset, blue hour whatsoever I do want to see the real life color shift. I do not know how a colordisc is helpful with that.

If you want to capture sunset temp shift, used the fixed daylight WB setting as you process the shot - the DNG file doesn't change, you can choose the in-camera neutral WB, or you could choose a fixed Daylight WB as you post process.

[dynaerik]

Blessed are the M11 Monochrom owners 😄

[R4p70r]

1 hour ago, dynaerik said:

Blessed are the M11 Monochrom owners 😄

Psssht.... Don't be that easily fooled!
That colour shift influences the real colour like screw-on colour filters which also results in different shades of grey. 🤭

Edited Thursday at 04:15 PM by R4p70r

[Ne314satel]

5 hours ago, dynaerik said:

Blessed are the M11 Monochrom owners 😄

The M11M has its own issues, especially with blue in black and white—it's too white. This wasn't the case with the M9M. And converting a color photo from the M11 to black and white is fine. This is some kind of bug in the M11M; it needs to be corrected in a photo editor.

[LeicaGuyUK]

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I must ask, despite the WB option in the latest firmware I have around 2 months warranty left on my M11, is it worth having it sent back to Leica for white balance re-calibration? I figure I’d check before this runs out

 

 

[Ne314satel]

1 hour ago, LeicaGuyUK said:

I must ask, despite the WB option in the latest firmware I have around 2 months warranty left on my M11, is it worth having it sent back to Leica for white balance re-calibration? I figure I’d check before this runs out

 

 

I don't know if this is covered by warranty (most likely not). And the repair time—it took me a month, but it could take much longer.
I'm happy with the color after correction and auto white balance (sometimes it needs adjusting, but that's the workflow with all cameras), although I'm not very happy with the rendering of the new 60MP sensor, but that can't be changed. And there are no more ССD sensors.

[Derbyshire Man]

3 hours ago, LeicaGuyUK said:

I must ask, despite the WB option in the latest firmware I have around 2 months warranty left on my M11, is it worth having it sent back to Leica for white balance re-calibration? I figure I’d check before this runs out

 

 

 Not worth it. Plus as you’re UK based you get to wait 6 weeks longer than anyone else due to post Brexit customs processing.
 

Further, now that every user can do this themselves suspect they’d refuse to take it as there is a long enough waiting list for things the user can’t fix!

[jaapv]

8 hours ago, R4p70r said:

Psssht.... Don't be that easily fooled!
That colour shift influences the real colour like screw-on colour filters which also results in different shades of grey. 🤭

On a sensor that cannot see colour through lack of a Bayer filter? How can anything act like a colour filter without  any colour present? The only influence on the tonal scale on a monochrome camera will be the coating on the IR filter. And of course the lens and optional colour filter in front of the lens. 

[brickftl]

with the new firmware white balance adjustment, I moved up 11 clicks toward green/away from magenta, and moved 2 clicks horizontally toward warmth. Pleased with the SOOC images.

[R4p70r]

21 hours ago, jaapv said:

On a sensor that cannot see colour through lack of a Bayer filter? How can anything act like a colour filter without  any colour present? The only influence on the tonal scale on a monochrome camera will be the coating on the IR filter. And of course the lens and optional colour filter in front of the lens. 

It was a joke... Next time I'll tag those jokes with <irony> ... </irony> around the text.

[SrMi]

9 hours ago, R4p70r said:

It was a joke... Next time I'll tag those jokes with <irony> ... </irony> around the text.

You can select an emoji from the toolbar. I guessed you were joking, but I was not 100% sure as there is so much nonsense out there 😄.