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3 hours ago, UliWer said:

I know we discussed this before and I am not looking forward to convince you.

For me there is a fundamental contradiction if something is switched off and stays active at the same time so that it can detect a lens code to apply a certain code. The camera does not accept the main function "off" for lens detection.

It may be interesting lo look in which context the word "freeze" was first used in connection to the M11. I may have overlooked an early posting but I think it is here:

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329432-m11-will-freeze-when-lens-detection-off-bug/

And then it goes on:

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329232-m11-bug-with-uncoded-lens/

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/338594-lens-selector-off/

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/331172-m11-does-not-detect-lens-intermittent-fault/

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375926-m11-auto-lens-detection-problems/#comments

I don't know if i'm the right person to comment but i haven't had any problems with my M11 since firmware update 1.6.1 so far. I don't use lens detection off for my coded lenses mostly but it works perfectly with uncoded lenses when i don't want to apply a Leica lens profile to them. FWIW.

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4 hours ago, hjddd said:

We have been waiting for enough time to wait for Leica to release new firmware。 Where is it? 

Have to agree.  Just encountered my 7th corrupted file.  Disappointing that this issue has yet to be addressed.  All one can hope is that in getting to the bottom of this one, they've finally figured out where the internal collisions are happening, though given the delay, if so, one has to assume that the problem(s) are difficult to address. Either that or their doing far more testing this time around to avoid any further mud in the face.  

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Did anyone confirm if the corruption still exists when shooting to both internal + SD card (so files are mirrored across both)?

The first DNG after turning the camera on is often corrupted for me, shooting to SD only. It's not consistent but it's often. 

I've switched to IN=SD which is mirroring the DNG files on both the internal storage and the SD card. I'm assuming this means the file is written to the internal drive first, then copied across to the SD card. Can anyone confirm if doing this has solved the problem for them?

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On 2/9/2024 at 2:55 PM, Stevejack said:

Did anyone confirm if the corruption still exists when shooting to both internal + SD card (so files are mirrored across both)?

The first DNG after turning the camera on is often corrupted for me, shooting to SD only. It's not consistent but it's often. 

I've switched to IN=SD which is mirroring the DNG files on both the internal storage and the SD card. I'm assuming this means the file is written to the internal drive first, then copied across to the SD card. Can anyone confirm if doing this has solved the problem for them?

After some testing I can confirm that setting the storage to IN=SD has not solved the problem, the first file recorded to the SD card after switching the camera on is still occasionally corrupted. 

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2 hours ago, Stevejack said:

After some testing I can confirm that setting the storage to IN=SD has not solved the problem, the first file recorded to the SD card after switching the camera on is still occasionally corrupted. 

Agreed. I have since actually sold off my M11 because things were so frustrating. But I can concur with this as I exclusively shot in IN=SD mode and also had the DNG corruption issue. 

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Just now, mattcheol said:

Agreed. I have since actually sold off my M11 because things were so frustrating. But I can concur with this as I exclusively shot in IN=SD mode and also had the DNG corruption issue. 

It seems the only solution is to use the internal storage and transfer images via the M11 built in USB-C port. Crazy state of affairs that this is the situation we're in. 

I have an M11 still on firmware 1.2 which doesn't have the issue, but when I purchased the M11M it had the newest firmware already on it so I had no choice in the matter and obviously can't revert to an earlier firmware. 

 

 

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Mattcheol,  +1.  You are not alone.  I traded my M11s to include the P and went back to the M10-R & M cameras.  I simply had to make a choice, corrupt DNG files, magenta cast, firmware updates that create issues that were previously fixed or had no issues before.  Others report no issues and I am happy for them.  Personally, I could not take further risk with the M11s that simply did not work reliably for me.  r/ Mark

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1 hour ago, Stevejack said:

Wait - you know a way for the end user to do this? How?

I thought it wasn't possible because the camera will deny an older firmware version but if you have the solution I'm all ears.

I don't have an M11, but I seem to remember that earlier models accepted quite easily older firmware versions. Hence my question whether you had tried to do so. The opposite would be that you didn't try because you simply assumed that it wasn't possible.

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10 minutes ago, pop said:

I don't have an M11, but I seem to remember that earlier models accepted quite easily older firmware versions. Hence my question whether you had tried to do so. The opposite would be that you didn't try because you simply assumed that it wasn't possible.

Ah, yes sorry I did try and when it didn’t work I went looking and read that it wasn’t possible. 
when you load an older firmware version onto the SD card the camera doesn’t recognise it so you can’t start the update process. The option to update is blanked out. 
 

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58 minutes ago, jaapv said:

[...]The best remedy is to follow best practice by locking the card before inserting it into the reader.

A practice i have never used in 20+ years but if it works for others i have nothing to say against it. Edit: Except that i don't see how backup memory can be done and user profiles exported to a card if it is locked, sorry if i sound negative this way.

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14 minutes ago, jaapv said:

The Internet is full of complaints about Windows corrupting SD cards. Frying pan into the fire comes to mind. Just as bad as Mac. The best remedy is to follow best practice by locking the card before inserting it into the reader. 

Works fine until the lock breaks down, happened after only a few actuations with one of my Sandisk Extreme SD cards.

I considered modifying a card reader especially for the M11  in such a way that every card seems locked..

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