kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Share #1 Â Posted July 19, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have noticed that many of my soft releases (I have a whole bunch) will not fit on my M-A but will fit on my M240. On the M-A they just will not screw in. But this works on all my cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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01af Posted July 19, 2023 Share #2 Â Posted July 19, 2023 If you know how to handle a camera properly then a so-called soft-release button will be just a impediment. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted July 19, 2023 Share #3 Â Posted July 19, 2023 It was noted a while back that Leica had changed the thread form on the shutter release on some camera models, causing some cable releases to not work. Sounds like the same issue. Combined with the reports of damage to Leica shutters in some situations with "soft releases" installed, I don't bother with them. (Except on my M5, where the extra button travel to swing the metering cell requires a deeper push on the button - but I use the smallest and thinnest release I could find.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #4 Â Posted July 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, 01af said: If you know how to handle a camera properly then a so-called soft-release button will be just a impediment. Respectfully, I do not agree. Soft release buttons have continued to provide an "extra stop". A much appreciated feature. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #5 Â Posted July 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, 01af said: If you know how to handle a camera properly then a so-called soft-release button will be just a impediment. Respectfully, I do not agree. Soft release buttons have continued to provide an "extra stop". A much appreciated feature. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #6 Â Posted July 19, 2023 Having said this, there is some risk in using Soft Release buttons. Mainly the stem being extended of the soft release can get caught on something and bend the stem underneath the shutter button needing an expensive repair. Just saying..... So now I use this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted July 19, 2023 Share #7 Â Posted July 19, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 31 Minuten schrieb kivis: Soft-release buttons have continued to provide an "extra stop". So you're not able to operate your camera's release button properly ... sorry for you. But that still doesn't mean that soft-release buttons made sense. Instead, learning to operate the camera makes sense. Don't try pushing the release button with your finger's tip. Just use the finger's first joint! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #8 Â Posted July 19, 2023 Different strokes for different folks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted July 19, 2023 Share #9 Â Posted July 19, 2023 vor 19 Minuten schrieb kivis: Different strokes for different folks. Umm ... yeah. Sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogM Posted July 19, 2023 Share #10 Â Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, 01af said: Umm ... yeah. Sure. What is your problem..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted July 19, 2023 Share #11 Â Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) vor 21 Minuten schrieb analogM: What is your problem ...? No problem personally. But using a soft-release button doesn't only make no sense in terms of avoiding camera shake, it also increases the danger of damaging the camera's internal shutter-release mechanics. So, propagating soft-release buttons to green M-camera users is deceptive. I remember my own experience: Upon first try, a soft-release button seems to lead to a softer shutter release ... but actually, operating the shutter-release button properly, without any so-called 'soft-release button,' leads to an even softer shutter release. Edited July 19, 2023 by 01af Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted July 19, 2023 Share #12  Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) I tried them for quite a while. The best I found were the Abrahamsson’s mini release but gave them up for two reasons. First, there is always the possibility of snagging it on a piece of clothing and bending the actuator arm, a rare occurrence. The other is it would interfere with my ability to slide my finger over the release to press it. With the soft release I would have to push it from above.  Edited July 19, 2023 by madNbad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #13 Â Posted July 19, 2023 Acknowledging some risk, although I have been using various SR products over the years (remember Nikon had one for the F and F2 back in the seventies), I have never had a problem with any of them. Again gaining a stop is for real and I highly recommend them. But each to their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share #14 Â Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, 01af said: No problem personally. But using a soft-release button doesn't only make no sense in terms of avoiding camera shake, it also increases the danger of damaging the camera's internal shutter-release mechanics. So, propagating soft-release buttons to green M-camera users is deceptive. I remember my own experience: Upon first try, a soft-release button seems to lead to a softer shutter release ... but actually, operating the shutter-release button properly, without any so-called 'soft-release button,' leads to an even softer shutter release. Again I disagree. from an old Photog active for over 50 years. (Me). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted July 19, 2023 Share #15 Â Posted July 19, 2023 Back to OP... I noticed that any soft release or cable release that works on my vintage M's will not work on the digital M's starting from M8, and the other way around. I did not know that modern M film bodies follow the old vintage bodies, but it seems the M-A is the same as my M3 in that aspect. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSG123 Posted July 19, 2023 Share #16  Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, 01af said: If you know how to handle a camera properly then a so-called soft-release button will be just a impediment. In your opinion. I use one on my M4 but no other camera. It works better with the design of that camera and shutter release. As another photographer with 50 plus years of photographic experience, my experience is some cameras benefit from the attachment of a soft release. Some don't. In the case of my M4, it benefits. In my opinion... Edited July 19, 2023 by CSG123 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSG123 Posted July 19, 2023 Share #17  Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, analogM said: What is your problem..? He's no problem anymore. People like that go right to ignore and no longer exist for me on this forum. Edited July 19, 2023 by CSG123 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 19, 2023 Share #18 Â Posted July 19, 2023 There have always been subtle variations over the years for manufacturers to make cameras with slightly different thread pitch and diameters in the shutter button. Add to that the cable release and soft release manufacturers who equally have their own interpretation and you have a Wild West of tiny variations that either work or don't work. If it doesn't work on your camera the manufacturer never tested it so doesn't care about you, so move on and try another, and another, and another...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share #19 Â Posted July 20, 2023 I have about 15 in all. Here a few: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 20, 2023 Share #20  Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Hi kivis,  I have always used the soft release namely komaro and jay tsujimura, both work oke between the film M, ranging from M2 years to the current like M11.. however there’s a caveat, being the old shutter release that sits flush on the film M, will actually slightly protrude on late M’s Jay soft release come with two options, with long and short screw as they were called, with the latter suit more with M digital starting from M240? I might be wrong but both will screw in just fine Edited July 20, 2023 by jakontil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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