LocalHero1953 Posted July 25, 2023 Share #61 Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 hours ago, Pierre68 said: Little update upon my oncoming travel: Yesterday I hiked for 3 hours in the Swiss Alps with my S007 and 3 lenses (24 70 and 120) just to figure if I could make it in Iceland trekking to the new volcano site. I am 55 years old and quite fit but heck... that was quite a load to carry for 3 hours (8,5 kgs + drinks and food and clothes... = 12 kgs) I was planning to carry 5 lenses:24, 35, 70, 120 and 180... so probably like 14kg.... Does not look fun to me So now I am finding myself wondering if I should take the SL2 with 3 zooms (16-35, 24-90 and 90-280) instead... Any input from personal experience would be welcome A while ago I worked out that 10kg was my limit for carrying large format kit in mountainous areas (all up, including backpack, camera stuff, tripod, water etc) for a day. I'm older than you but also reasonably fit and used to hiking. More than 10kg would take the pleasure out of it. I always had an idea of the sort of photos I was looking for, so would take just one large format lens. In your shoes, and it looks like you have plenty of photographic experience, I would pick just one zoom. And if I reckoned I only needed a full frame/35mm kit, then I would have started with a M! My SLs have always been for city use. Edited July 25, 2023 by LocalHero1953 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IkarusJohn Posted July 25, 2023 Share #62 Posted July 25, 2023 I’m 64 and used to carrying backpacks (paragliders, tramping kit etc). I work on 15kg max for everything - pack, water, tramping kit and camera gear. It makes selecting camera and lenses a careful process … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan_S Posted July 25, 2023 Share #63 Posted July 25, 2023 @ImmerDraussen Having travelled to Iceland with two S bodies (S2 and S007) I would recommend the following in your case: S with 30-90mm + 70mm + maybe a longer S lens like the 120mm or 180mm? SL with M adapter and a fast 35mm example a f1.4 or f2 S to SL adapter so you will have the reach to 90mm 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclectic Man Posted July 25, 2023 Share #64 Posted July 25, 2023 Sorry to have to tell you this but walking in Iceland can be much harder than in the Alps. The worst surface is coarse laval sand, which absorbs your weight and you get no push off from your toes when walking forwards. It was the hardest surface to walk on I have encountered (apart from sticky mud / peat bog in the Pennines). If you can take your gear but leave it behind in a safe place if it gets too much to carry, that would give you the best opportunity to enjoy your holiday and get some nice photos. There is little point in having all those great lenses if they just become paperweights (says he, thinking about the dust accumulating on his own collection of Leica gear...) As the travel photographer Nevada Weir said when buying gear and deciding what to take on a trip, her first thought was 'who is going to carry this?' ('Adventure travel photography' by Nevada Weir, ISBN 0-8174-3276-0.) I hope that you have a great time, and whatever you decide to take, Iceland is a wonderful country to visit, and if you are feeling incredibly happy and rich you can even spend over US$3500 on a single pillow! https://www.nordicstore.com/products/eiderdown-pillow-1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted July 25, 2023 Share #65 Posted July 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Pierre68 said: I was planning to carry 5 lenses:24, 35, 70, 120 and 180... so probably like 14kg.... Does not look fun to me That's way too many. The problem (for me anyway) isn't just the weight, it's the excessive options. I tend to see images that correspond to the focal lengths that are available. Having 5 lenses makes it feel like a lens test; you would try a bit of everything and probably end-up with nothing great. I would pick two, probably 35 and 120, for hiking days. You can bring the rest and use them on days when you will be nearer to your transport. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter12 Posted July 25, 2023 Share #66 Posted July 25, 2023 I dislike changing lenses on the fly, although that is an easier task with the S than many other cameras. When traveling, if I am thinking logically and sanely enough, either I will take a compact camera like a Leica M and a few lenses or a digital Fuji XPro and a short zoom if air travel is involved. If photography is going to be a major purpose of the trip, then I haul out the big guns but still try to keep things light. Maybe 5 kg in the pack if I'm carrying it all day. 28mm, 50-110mm (both Hasselblad) with the adapter, S 70mm and an S 006 body with 2 batteries and a minimal CF tripod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted July 26, 2023 Share #67 Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) If you are going to the volcano, you should also consider bringing along a gas mask that can filter SO2 and H2S, along with particulates. You may not need it, but it is certainly good to have it. The air has not been great here recently, and right up next to the volcano it is the worst. If you are walking and the wind shifts, the gasses can blow over the trail, which can be between unpleasant to deadly, depending on the concentration and your susceptibility. I think we are lucky that only one person has died so far (an older man who walked there...unclear if the volcano had an influence). As for lenses, if it were the S camera, I would take the 35, 70 and 120 on the trip. With an SL camera, probably the 24mm 3.5 Sigma, 50mm APO Summicron and a long lens. The 90-280mm is great, but very heavy. I would strongly consider bringing my 135mm Tele-Elmar with an adapter. Light and sharp...most of the stuff in Iceland is pretty stationary, so AF is not really critical. When I went to the last volcano I brought the SL2 50mm APO and 90mm APO Summicron M. They did very well for me. I took a helicopter as at the time it was quite inexpensive as it was still Covid and not quite so many tourists. Now it is rather chaotic, but still worth it. The helicopters are more expensive now, but the view is totally incredible...much nicer than on the ground I am sorry to say! It is much easier to appreciate the scale and to be able to look down in to the calderas. I think the photo below was the 50mm...if you do take a helicopter, the stabilization and sharpness of the apo summicrons is miraculous. I was shooting a Mamiya 7II at the same time and nearly all the photos were blurry that I took in the air. All the SL2 ones were tack sharp...even when shot at f2. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 26, 2023 by Stuart Richardson 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822151'>More sharing options...
Eclectic Man Posted July 26, 2023 Share #68 Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Stuart Richardson "if you do take a helicopter, the stabilization and sharpness of the apo summicrons is miraculous. I was shooting a Mamiya 7II at the same time and nearly all the photos were blurry that I took in the air. All the SL2 ones were tack sharp...even when shot at f2." Great to know the SL2 has excellent image stabilisation. The aerial photographer, Timo Lieber (https://www.timolieber.com ) used a gyroscopic stabiliser on his Phase One camera to take some superb photographs from helicopters, but they do weigh quite a lot. Edited July 26, 2023 by Eclectic Man References and typos :o( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted July 26, 2023 Share #69 Posted July 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Eclectic Man said: Stuart Richardson "if you do take a helicopter, the stabilization and sharpness of the apo summicrons is miraculous. I was shooting a Mamiya 7II at the same time and nearly all the photos were blurry that I took in the air. All the SL2 ones were tack sharp...even when shot at f2." Great to know the SL2 has excellent image stabilisation. The aerial photographer, Timo Lieber (https://www.timolieber.com ) used a gyroscopic stabiliser on his Phase One camera to take some superb photographs from helicopters, but they do weigh quite a lot. Yeah, I don't think you are going to get something like that on a typical helicopter flight here unless you book the flight for just yourself. They really squeeze you in! There was not room for a backpack even...just a single small shoulder bag that could fit between my legs. There was also no opening windows etc. In any case, if you take a helicopter out there you are certainly not getting an S with three or four lenses and also an SL and the big zooms etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share #70 Posted July 26, 2023 An amateur's perspective: 'less is more'. The terrain is rugged, with lots of inclines. I stuck with just the S 70. At times, I might have preferred a wider angle, other times more of a telephoto. The S 70 was the compromise. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822541'>More sharing options...
bags27 Posted July 27, 2023 Share #71 Posted July 27, 2023 5 hours ago, ropo54 said: An amateur's perspective: 'less is more'. The terrain is rugged, with lots of inclines. I stuck with just the S 70. At times, I might have preferred a wider angle, other times more of a telephoto. The S 70 was the compromise. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Superb, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #72 Posted July 27, 2023 For a short period, I also carried the S100 on the SL2 S body along with the S 70. I really enjoyed having that pairing (along with the image stabilization) but just decided I did not want to carry the weight. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822818'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #73 Posted July 27, 2023 S100 w SL2S Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822819'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #74 Posted July 27, 2023 S 100 w SL2S Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822821'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #75 Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) The iPhone was practical for carrying along as a wider angle alternative. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 27, 2023 by ropo54 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822828'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #76 Posted July 27, 2023 The many colorful textures of Iceland. S70. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822841'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #77 Posted July 27, 2023 S70 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4822849'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share #78 Posted July 28, 2023 S 100 w SL2-S Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4823260'>More sharing options...
Milan_S Posted July 28, 2023 Share #79 Posted July 28, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica S007 Summicron-S 100mm f2 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica S007 Summicron-S 100mm f2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375662-thoughts-on-lenses-and-cameras-for-trip-to-iceland/?do=findComment&comment=4823436'>More sharing options...
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