Overgaard Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1081 Posted January 21, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 26 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: I have been thinking of what single improvement would make me want to buy the SL3. I concluded that it would be either a global electronic shutter or a sensor with a very much faster readout. Shooting indoors with the SL2-S as I do, I find the banding with artificial lighting a major limitation, and the cause of a lot jettisoned images, or extra processing (e.g. Lightroom masking of the background and reduce Clarity and Texture - which gets rid of it but gives a rather foggy texture). I would welcome this above better AF - nice though that would be - and above increased resolution. I think flip screen and a slightly improved design of the body ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trickness Posted January 21, 2024 Author Share #1082 Posted January 21, 2024 5 minutes ago, Overgaard said: I think flip screen and a slightly improved design of the body ... I’d be very surprised if SL3 did not have a flip screen. But I don’t expect the body to be substantially smaller. Look what happened with the Q3 design…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1083 Posted January 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, trickness said: I’d be very surprised if SL3 did not have a flip screen. But I don’t expect the body to be substantially smaller @jonoslack would know 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Baraka Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1084 Posted January 21, 2024 1 hour ago, andybarton said: Just so that you know, you DON'T have to buy every new camera that is released. It's not mandatory. No one will think any the less of you and your photographs with your new camera will be just as good next year and the year after. I know that of course, in fact when I look back, personaly I am quite more often late in the lifecycle of cameras that I buy. Quite happy with my SL2 for now, I was just reassuring myself:) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickness Posted January 21, 2024 Author Share #1085 Posted January 21, 2024 1 hour ago, frame-it said: @jonoslack would know Yep, and likely a few of the residents here, but anyone who has seen it would have had to sign an NDA…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1086 Posted January 21, 2024 10 minutes ago, Filip Baraka said: I know that of course, in fact when I look back, personaly I am quite more often late in the lifecycle of cameras that I buy. Quite happy with my SL2 for now, I was just reassuring myself:) You are not the only one contemplating. Title of this video starts @ 3:50 mark Leica SL2 in 2024: Worth It?" width="200"> 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1087 Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, trickness said: I’d be very surprised if SL3 did not have a flip screen. But I don’t expect the body to be substantially smaller. Look what happened with the Q3 design…. I'm feeling confident, the SL3 will : -Have a flip out screen ( Q3 sets the stage) -Be very slightly smaller body( as indicated by Stefan Daniel some time ago in one of his interviews) * More than slightly smaller IMO will throw the balance off of one of the reason for me to own the SL cameras system, the SL APO primes. **I like that Leica has created smaller/lighter SL APSH prime lenses to attract those that prefer a small lighter Leica FF interchangeable lens mirrorless kit and think we will see more of this type of lens down-sizing going forward. AKA, I'm expecting a new 100 2.8 compact macro rebadge. Edited January 21, 2024 by LBJ2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1088 Posted January 21, 2024 1 hour ago, LBJ2 said: -Be very slightly smaller body probably the same size but a bit more curvy with a better grip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1089 Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, jaapv said: Maybe. The Q3 is doing well enough against the Q2. I am waiting for the SL3S to kill off the used price of the SL2S. The Q3 has some dramatic improvements over the Q2. Q2’s AF / face recognition is pedestrian at best thanks to the sloppy Maestro II, and even at 1600 iso noise looks very ugly. From what I’ve seen so far, the SL2-S has better low light capabilities and shadow recovery over the 60mp sensor, and AF performance is decent in single autofocus, so the gap is not that wide. And there’s also internal competition from Panasonic. Edited January 21, 2024 by Simone_DF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1090 Posted January 21, 2024 Can’t they not just release this d*mn camera? Enough guessing… 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1091 Posted January 21, 2024 If they had released the camera last week, the guessing would have started three months earlier 🤣 All part of the fun . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1092 Posted January 21, 2024 41 minutes ago, Olaf_ZG said: Can’t they not just release this d*mn camera? Enough guessing… ... so that we can start complaining! 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1093 Posted January 21, 2024 3 hours ago, frame-it said: probably the same size but a bit more curvy with a better grip I think you might be right. I also hope Leica release in both Black and the beautiful Silver edition we saw with the SL2 late release. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 21, 2024 Share #1094 Posted January 21, 2024 The rumour shows a silver one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
o2mpx Posted January 22, 2024 Share #1095 Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) It’s likely the SL range body and lens weight and bulkiness are high on the most mentioned unfavorable list. The latest efforts with minimally lighter primes and zooms, but many being rebadged, aren’t truly comprehensive solutions for those looking for native Leica make and material weight savings. Having sold the SL2 in anticipation of the SL3, while getting a S1r in the interim, actually gave a nice experience from a usability perspective; but having put the 16-35 and 24-90 on the S1r to do a pre trip to India check, again brought up the weight and bulk challenges that moved the decision towards the X2D and 21/35-75/120; thinking is if weight and bulk are present, mind as well get the 100mp sensor and HB color. As latest news mentioned the SL3 has the 60mp sensor but only slightly smaller, unlikely the weight and bulk challenges are resolved. Highly questioning whether to add the SL3 or perhaps just selling the 2 L zooms and stick with the HB setup. Edited January 22, 2024 by o2mpx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimvilar Posted January 22, 2024 Share #1096 Posted January 22, 2024 To me, one of the key factors to use one camera or another is the user experience and how fun and unique it is to shoot with it. I love my SL2-S because of the experience I get taking photos with it and its lenses. I've heard many comments from people telling me that the camera is mainly Panasonic internal, that it lacks a good autofocus, that it does not have a tilt screen, etc... I get all these comments, but at the of the day I really don't mind. I love the process of taking photos with it and it helps me challenging myself plus it's a great tool for what I need it for. I have it for personal and professional use and the key reason that I will care about the SL3 or SL3-S is if it delivers this such 'experience' to me when photographying. I understand that a lot of people are anxious to get the drawbacks from the SL2 models solved (I sometimes feel a bit frustrated about them too). I think that if Leica releases a new SL model and misses on the experience, then it will follow many other camera manufacturers that might have technically amazing cameras but don't deliver the same joy of photographying the world. It's very subjective and personal, but I will not want to have this 'experience' replaced (or sacrificed) by the latest technical innovations. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 22, 2024 Share #1097 Posted January 22, 2024 A DPR forum member accidentally saw the SL3 in a NY camera store. He confirms a smaller size, better AF, 61MP sensor, and $8k price. The poster seems a reliable source. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 22, 2024 Share #1098 Posted January 22, 2024 Very typical for Leica, these “ unintentional “ leaks… 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 22, 2024 Share #1099 Posted January 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, jaapv said: Very typical for Leica, these “ unintentional “ leaks… In this case, it is the camera store's fault. It seems that the camera stores have already received the units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 23, 2024 Share #1100 Posted January 23, 2024 Yep. We see it at every introduction: so-called "mistakes" which I regard as planned teasers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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