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After I bought an MP, I noticed how much easier its viewfinder is to use. Seriously considering to send my M6 to Solms for a viewfinder upgrade. Not cheap, but it makes life easier.

 

This M6 was my first Leica and I'm at the point asking myself if I want to keep my dslr. Hardly take it out any more. The Leica's are so much more fun!

 

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Nice! I have the same setup. Thinking about the finder upgrade myself... Do they have to remove the camera leather to do it?

 

no he didn't remove the leather… was doing a cla so it was only a couple hundred extra. apparently he has to take the whole thing apart to get in there. check with your leica tech though!

 

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It was Sexy when I first got it in 1998 and it

is still Sexy ..as it is always:D

 

 

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This is still my best camera and it is having a little competition with M8.2 that came to the bag.:)

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This is a long thread, so apologies if its been said before:

 

What Leica did with the MP was to put the M6 classic back into production with a slight finder upgrade and with the M2/M3 rewind, which could replaced under the customization program with the M4/M6 rewind. Talk to the repairers such as Sherry or DAG -- there are no differences.

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My first Leica was an M6 0.72 Panda (not by choice mind you). Still, the black on chrome was pretty cool. Unfortunate circumstances forced me to sell it a few years ago but I was recently able to replace it with an M6 0.85 Black. I mainly shoot 50 so the 0.85 is a great asset. Soon I'll be sending it off for the finder upgrade. It is and will continue to be my main camera. An M3 is my other body so it's up against the best but still manages to shine. What a camera!

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My killer combo

I love the superia 400 color film, and the M6, and the Elmarit-M 28mm

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This is a long thread, so apologies if its been said before:

 

What Leica did with the MP was to put the M6 classic back into production with a slight finder upgrade and with the M2/M3 rewind, which could replaced under the customization program with the M4/M6 rewind. Talk to the repairers such as Sherry or DAG -- there are no differences.

 

...rolfe_tessem, apart from the reconfigured V/F, the MP comes fitted with brass top and bottom plates, as well as brass gears (just like the M3). The M6, on the other hand, came with steel gears. With time and use, brass gears operate smoother than steel ones - one of the main reasons for the legendary silky operation of the M3.

 

I still have the M6 I purchased in 1986 - my personal experience is that it is nowhere as smooth as any of my MPs, the first of which was bought c.2004. All cameras were bought brand new.

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...rolfe_tessem, apart from the reconfigured V/F, the MP comes fitted with brass top and bottom plates, as well as brass gears (just like the M3). The M6, on the other hand, came with steel gears.

 

It certainly does have brass top and bottom plates but I was told by a Leica tech that the gears are steel (for safe use with the M motor drive.) The original 1956-57 MP (A Photo Visual Library on series of rare, collectible Leica MP rangefinder camera bodies - Index page ) was built with steel gears to be used with the Leicavit. Apparently the new (current) MP uses steel gears but has a smoother film advance mechanism in respect to the M6. But it's not because Leica changed back to brass gears, but instead "tweaked" the steel gears for smoother operation and yet with the robustness for use with a motor.

 

The MP has several additional brass components that help promote that feel and build difference; there are photos here: Leica MP differences... - Photo.net Leica and Rangefinders Forum But the gears themselves are not fully brass (as in the M3/M4 etc..) There was also a thread about this question here on LUF some time ago: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1674505-post79.html

 

Anyway, I haven't personally seen the insides of the MP but that's what I was told by the repair person. Just passing it on....

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Does any of that really matter though to anyone?

 

I love my new to me M6, never handled an MP so I can't compare but the only thing I don't like about my camera is the RF patch flare, it really is doing my head in as I never noticed this problem with the M8. Its one of those things which whilst rare, when it does happen you miss the shot and its gone. The coated optics in the newer camera also seem to produce a slightly clearer view for me with nicer colour. Not enough of a difference for me to fork out for the MP though, but I would like to look into the upgrade and make my M6 perfect.

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NJH, try positioning your eye very carefully and exactly central and square to the VF when looking through it. It can improve the propensity for flare as well as correct focussing. Try to make it a habit you don't think about.

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Does any of that really matter though to anyone?

 

It doesn't matter to me. It's just part of Leica trivia. :) They are all great cameras to use. Currently, I have both the M6 and the M4 and like them equally.

 

fwiw, I did have a new MP around 9 years ago and it needed repair after 6 months use (there's was a plastic piece in the rewind knob that cracked and made rewinding impossible; but a relatively easy fix.) I sold the camera after a full year of use but primarily because I got a good price for it at the time. But personally I didn't find the MP any 'better' in real world use than the M6 (or any other M Leica for that matter.)

 

I love my new to me M6, never handled an MP so I can't compare but the only thing I don't like about my camera is the RF patch flare, it really is doing my head in as I never noticed this problem with the M8. Its one of those things which whilst rare, when it does happen you miss the shot and its gone. The coated optics in the newer camera also seem to produce a slightly clearer view for me with nicer colour. Not enough of a difference for me to fork out for the MP though, but I would like to look into the upgrade and make my M6 perfect.

 

As Erl said, you can position you eye to where it's not such an issue. And it will eventually become habit. However, when/if you ever get a service done for the camera you can consider having the non-flare optics installed. I had it done when I had my M6 serviced (it's a bit less expensive when done during a service since the camera is already being opened.) That solved the issue. Plus after a good service the camera will be 'smooth feeling' as any other film M Leica.

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It certainly does have brass top and bottom plates but I was told by a Leica tech that the gears are steel (for safe use with the M motor drive.) The original 1956-57 MP (A Photo Visual Library on series of rare, collectible Leica MP rangefinder camera bodies - Index page ) was built with steel gears to be used with the Leicavit. Apparently the new (current) MP uses steel gears but has a smoother film advance mechanism in respect to the M6. But it's not because Leica changed back to brass gears, but instead "tweaked" the steel gears for smoother operation and yet with the robustness for use with a motor.

 

The MP has several additional brass components that help promote that feel and build difference; there are photos here: Leica MP differences... - Photo.net Leica and Rangefinders Forum But the gears themselves are not fully brass (as in the M3/M4 etc..) There was also a thread about this question here on LUF some time ago: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1674505-post79.html

 

Anyway, I haven't personally seen the insides of the MP but that's what I was told by the repair person. Just passing it on....

 

...thanks for this, CalArts 99 - will try and find some authoritative Leica material that addresses the issue.

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I just got my black M6 with a Voightlander Nokton Classic 35mm f1.4 & SF20 flash.

I love it, goes very well with my Canonet G-III QL 17 and my Fuji X100 - I think these are my final cameras for a few years.

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One of the few pre-ttl. Is that a good or a bad thing??

 

If you don't need TTL-metering for flash, it's just a matter of taste or habit in handling other Leicas, if you turn the knob of the shutter speed to the left or to the right direction.

 

If you own other M2, M3, M4 or M6-non-TTL, you might prefer turning all knobs of the shutter speed in the same direction.

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