NWPhoto Posted October 20, 2022 Share #41 Posted October 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Markie said: Forgive me if I’m missing something… I don’t believe that Leica ever left film. With two analog cameras previously available (MP and M-A), why was there a need for the M6? What gap does this version fill? Good point. I've been tempted by that MP currently listed, but now I'm looking to the new M6. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 Hi NWPhoto, Take a look here Leica M6 Reissue: Return to Film. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
UliWer Posted October 20, 2022 Share #42 Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, earleygallery said: Give it a few years, how will people differentiate if a used M6 is old issue or new issue?..... Leicas still have serial numbers. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 20, 2022 Share #43 Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: Um … so … it’s an MP, dressed up to look like an M6 Classic? I was just wondering this. There seems to be no significant difference to the MP than cosmetics (which is fine as it increases the options) or am I missing something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 20, 2022 Share #44 Posted October 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, MarkP said: I was just wondering this. There seems to be no significant difference to the MP than cosmetics (which is fine as it increases the options) or am I missing something? Apparently it’s an internal improvement. Apparently. If Leica has moved more fabrication inhouse, that could be a good thing. Or it might not Functionally, no different. Apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 20, 2022 Share #45 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, RayD28 said: Agree, but $1,300 cheaper. So why is that? Is it just to create an entry level product (to sell more lenses) or have there been quality compromises or production efficiencies? Big price difference. Edited October 20, 2022 by MarkP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 20, 2022 Share #46 Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, IkarusJohn said: Apparently it’s an internal improvement. Apparently. Whatever that means 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted October 20, 2022 Share #47 Posted October 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: I guess that depends where you look. At B&H, M-A $5,595; MP $5,695; the news release refers to 5,050 Euro ~ $5,000? I think the price mentioned is with vat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 21, 2022 Share #48 Posted October 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, RayD28 said: I think the price mentioned is with vat. Yep, all prices full retail - if you’re crossing birders, things get quite different. But, in terms of Leica pricing, like Apple, they try to harmonise prices globally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
105012 Posted October 21, 2022 Share #49 Posted October 21, 2022 Congratulations Leica and Thank you for the continuing commitment to your heritage. You will undoubtedly sell every new M6 you make. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstock Posted October 21, 2022 Share #50 Posted October 21, 2022 According to Leica USA, $5,295.00 for a new M6, available November 6. I'm looking at my M6 on my desktop and thinking, do I really want a new M6. Right now I'm saying no only because mine was CLA'd so it should be good for the rest of my lifetime. I'm 79. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWPhoto Posted October 21, 2022 Share #51 Posted October 21, 2022 Leica Rumors reported that this may be limited to 500 units produced world wide, but that was leaked speculation mixed with some actual facts I guess. I see nothing in the announcement regarding a limited number, so either I missed it, or Leica will treat this like the MA and Mp...produce what the market requires and a bit more as needed. Especially since Leica is telling us that "filmisnotdead". Which is good news for those in earnest to buy one. Leica clearly understands this is a limited market, and if not a limited production, likely not as collectible as collectors prefer. Another reason those in earnest best have their credit card at the ready. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted October 21, 2022 Share #52 Posted October 21, 2022 6 hours ago, NWPhoto said: Leica Rumors reported that this may be limited to 500 units produced world wide, but that was leaked speculation mixed with some actual facts I guess. I see nothing in the announcement regarding a limited number, so either I missed it, or Leica will treat this like the MA and Mp...produce what the market requires and a bit more as needed. Especially since Leica is telling us that "filmisnotdead". Which is good news for those in earnest to buy one. Leica clearly understands this is a limited market, and if not a limited production, likely not as collectible as collectors prefer. Another reason those in earnest best have their credit card at the ready. Yes, not limited after all. One can hope for a LHSA limited edition if the goal is to both shoot film and make a good investment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 21, 2022 Share #53 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) . Edited October 21, 2022 by MarkP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted October 21, 2022 Share #54 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, earleygallery said: Give it a few years, how will people differentiate if a used M6 is old issue or new issue?..... One way would be to look in the viewfinder. The reissue has the extra middle dot meter and low battery LEDs, like an MP. Edited October 21, 2022 by Anbaric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 21, 2022 Share #55 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) I'm impressed by the attention to detail. The "Made in Germany" on the faux vulcanite, the Leitz red dot and the slightly naff plastic box (that looked a bit dated even in the '80s) are nice, attractive nods to the Leica of old. That pre-Kaufmann Leica, firmly stuck in the film paradigm and the company I think most of us remember fondly. Deep down, I think I'd quite like one of these reissues but I already have a couple of excellent film M cameras and am no longer enough of a consumerist or Leica fanboy to spend that kind of money on something I absolutely do not need. Edited October 21, 2022 by wattsy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted October 21, 2022 Share #56 Posted October 21, 2022 I like the commitement of Leica to film camera's, and the M6 certainly was a milestone and a wonderful camera. Who the reissue is really meant for is less obvious to me. For people wanting to start using a Leica film camera it is much easier to buy a good second-hand camera, which is not really cheap but at least about less than half the price of a new M6. And I don't think the second-hand market is running out of M6 and M6TTL bodies, is it? I use my M6 (1986) and my M6TTL (2000, the only Leica body I bought new) very often and I don't want to miss either of them. No need to replace them by a new body. Lex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 21, 2022 Share #57 Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, sandro said: Who the reissue is really meant for is less obvious to me. For anyone who wants to open a new thread “MP or M6 reissue, help me decide which is best”. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 21, 2022 Share #58 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ianman said: For anyone who wants to open a new thread “MP or M6 reissue, help me decide which is best”. There are already a few posts by people appearing to worry that their recently purchased MP doesn't have the new "internal parts" of the reissue. 😂 Classic modern marketing: release a product and then use social media influencers like Jono to sow seeds of doubt that the previous product isn't as good. Personally, I find this kind of thing tedious (and it somewhat puts me off the brand) but I realise it is profitable for fashion/lifestyle orientated companies like Leica to do this. Edited October 21, 2022 by wattsy 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krylovsk Posted October 21, 2022 Share #59 Posted October 21, 2022 As someone who recently got an (now “original“?) M6 classic I am very much curious how much this affects the repairability of the old M6, especially the infamous light meter PCB that is no longer available. Unfortunately at least on paper it looks more like a re-skinned MP, but it would be great to see someone taking the new M6 apart and giving us more insight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted October 21, 2022 Share #60 Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Retail price in UK is being quoted as: MA (black or silver) GBP4,200; MP (black or silver) GBP4,400; M6 (described as "Leica Retro") GBP4,500. Some sort of progression? Should add that second-hand M6 or M4 go for GBP2,000 or more. Given the worries about the electronics in the old M6, the case for a new one (if affordable) would likely be that it could be relied upon to give decades of service, just like the M3 or M2. Edited October 21, 2022 by John Robinson 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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