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I'm intrigued as to a more general point; does being convicted of fraud actually mean that you cannot trade again (for ever or for a specified time) or is there no legality to prevent it?

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  • stuny changed the title to Fraudulent eBhttps://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/338919-fraudulent-ebay-sales-by-arri888/ay sales by arri888
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On 5/23/2023 at 11:29 PM, Ouroboros said:

He is bankrupt.  He has walked away from his debts.

ETA: Unless you've missed this thread until now, I'm curious to know why you would risk dealing with him.

If he's bankrupt, should he be trading at all?

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  • andybarton changed the title to Fraudulent Ebay sales by arri888

Having dealt with Peter many times in the past and never having had a problem I find this whole situation to be very sad. Tha said, the debts racked up are surprisingly high for the period involved so I do wonder what exactly was going on. A great pity things get so far.

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3 minutes ago, pgk said:

A great pity things get so far.

Certainly a great pity for the individual who lost £150000, even if you are amazed at that persons lack of due diligence, but perhaps they too had had no problems in the past.

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He was sentenced last  week ...

 

"However, when the Covid-19 pandemic hit, business slowed and Walnes began to take money from customers for items he would never send them. On other occasions, Walnes would pretend to sell items for customers but never pass on the money received for them.

In total, 16 victims were identified, with one victim losing approximately £150,000 to Walnes. In total, Walnes took £187,000 from customers over the two year period.

Prosecutors explained to the court that Walnes had given a number of excuses to customers as to why their items or cash never arrived, including that he himself had been a victim of fraud. He would also make up fake tracking numbers and inform customers chasing payments that he was due large sums from elsewhere with which he could pay them."

 

The above being an excerpt from this in the Falmouth Packet: https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/23570866.peter-walnes-76-sentenced-fraudulent-business/

 

"Walnes was handed down a sentence of 24 months imprisonment, suspended for 24 months."

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Pyrogallol said:

If he is still doing it he should be brought back to court and the suspended sentence cancelled and become 24 months in jail.

Nothing is shown under his shop on eBay as it is stated as being "not currently active". Looks like his website still shows stock and stuff can be 'added to basket' so it appears to be working and potentially selling stuff, but might it be being run through someone else in order to try to get some money back? 

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Criminal aged 76 years admits defrauding customers to the tune of c.£1900 per week over a 2 years period and gets away with a mere 24 months suspended sentence!! 

Shame that the powers that be do not confiscate his remaining stock as 'proceeds of crime', sell it, and distribute the ££ to those who lost out because of his fraudulent trading. 

 

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All the film camera dealers I know were perturbed about Covid, but then saw sales go through the roof, as many people with time on their hands and being paid to do nothing took advantage. Ilford realised rapidly that they needed to up production. So I think his rationale for full scale theft absolutely implausible and the sentence way too lenient.

 

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11 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said:

Criminal aged 76 years admits defrauding customers to the tune of c.£1900 per week over a 2 years period and gets away with a mere 24 months suspended sentence!! 

Shame that the powers that be do not confiscate his remaining stock as 'proceeds of crime', sell it, and distribute the ££ to those who lost out because of his fraudulent trading. 

 

The last time I looked at his web site and eBay shop about eight weeks ago all he had for sale was 'shrapnel', lots of lens hoods, and obscure parts hardly anybody would need. But what better way to show you are stock poor to the Court than tot up the contents of your eBay shop as proof? The last time I got an email from him was 15/05/23, I wonder when I'll get the next?

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