Leica YouTube Video implies the M11 requires 4 x fl shutter speed minimum

[SJH]

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Given all the comments about getting sharp images with a 60mb sensor and no IBIS, I thought this Leica video should be interesting to many in that it proposes that the M11 should be set to 4 x fl as a minimum shutter speed. Interesting even for 50mm lenses in low light at 1/200th.

Personally I've used my M11 at  say 1/125th with a 50mm lens for example (or as low as 1/30th with a reasonable hit rate) and been fine but I think it's interesting that this video has appeared around only 2 'myths'!!

 

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[SrMi]

This video has been discussed before, probably in the long thread "Problems getting sharp images by 60MP".

AFAICR, the conclusion was that handholding speed vary by photographer.

[FlashGordonPhotography]

You and I do not need to hold a camera at the same ratio of shutter speed. We are different. It’s up to you to learn what you are capable of. There is no set number.

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[SJH]

Thanks all I hadn't seen that post re the video. 

[adan]

I've had my 24-Mpixel plain M10 set to 4x from the beginning. Reason - subject motion.

I like to photograph people doing stuff - I leave motionless-subject pictures to the morticians.

Even 4x is often not enough with wide angles (4 x 21mm = 1/84th sec) - so I've taken to manually setting the shutter dial to 1/250th or higher when using auto-ISO.

[PhoToad]

To avoid blur from camera shake, Jesko von Oeynhausen (Global Director Product Division Photo with Leica) has recommended 1/4f already with the introduction of the M10-R.

[hdmesa]

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M11: 1/4f works well right after several cups of coffee  -|-  1/2f is fine most of the time  -|-  1/1f may require exceptional technique

[PhoToad]

<< M11: 1/4f works well right after several cups of coffee  -|-  1/2f is fine most of the time  -|-  1/1f may require exceptional technique >>

Maybe; I am not up to putting others' abilities into question. But if I was to consider purchasing an M11, I would rather trust the caveat from a knowledgable Leica expert than individual experiences.

[SJH]

I find the the new M11 grip helps at times. Didn’t really bother with my M10R but proves useful in some cases  with the new camera and it goes straight onto my Peak Design tripod for example if needed. 

Edited May 19, 2022 by SJH

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21 hours ago, hdmesa said:

M11: 1/4f works well right after several cups of coffee  -|-  1/2f is fine most of the time  -|-  1/1f may require exceptional technique

Mainly 1/2f or 1/3f for me but i often do click-click-click to keep one shot out of three. May help people with less than rock solid hands in low light. Here handheld at 1/20s (M11, 50/2 v4, f/2, 6400iso, FF and 100% crop).

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[tom0511]

My practise is to use 1/250 as a standard (helps also to avoid motion blur from my kids etc.)

However if the light gets lower and I have to crank up ISO too much I do not hesistate to go 1/125 (for 28-50mm), or even 1/60 if necessary.

And to be honest, even if there is the slightest blur when zooming in 100%, many images still look fine at normal viewing size. And usually the images in lower light are not the ones where I would need super crisp small details, its more friends at the table, kids at the fire camp,...

So I have the "blurr" thing of high MP in mind, but I just try to find the best comromise and I have not felt limited by this in any ways.

Edited May 20, 2022 by tom0511