Erato Posted May 6, 2022 Share #41 Â Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Further reference -- spectrum analysis. Â Â Edited May 6, 2022 by Erato Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 Hi Erato, Take a look here New Mac Studio with M1 Ultra chip, 64GB or 128GB?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
AndrewK Posted June 9, 2022 Share #42  Posted June 9, 2022 On 3/10/2022 at 9:22 AM, ymc226 said: I just got the M11, have not downloaded any of the 60MP files yet to my old 2013 MacPro with 64GB RAM but my M10R files took a while to be worked on with this old system.  Knowing there is a difference between the older Intel and new Apple Silicone M1 chips with performance due to amount of RAM not being equivalent between the 2 types of chips.  Would anyone care to offer an opinion as to whether 64GB would be enough.  I do no video editing nor plan to and continue to use LR Classic for processing (occasional panos as well).  The Studio with the Ultra is already US$3999 and the upgrade to 128GB is an extra $800.  Don't mind upgrading if necessary but obviously would like to limit costs.  No other use for this computer except for photo editing.  Not sure if you have made your purchase on M1 Max or M1 Ultra Mac Studio. But DPReview has this article published on 4/7/2022 on the performance comparison between M1 Max & M1 Ultra for photographers working on Lightroom Classic, Capture One Pro 22, and Photoshop. It also included video application test as well if you ever consider doing some video editing.  But over all it seems like Adobe has done a great job optimizing Lightroom classic for M1 Ultra. Link: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/6821380037/apple-m1-ultra-vs-m1-max-head-to-head-shootout If I were getting a Mac Studio, I'd go for M1 Ultra + 64MB RAM + 1TB.  1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted July 6, 2022 Share #43  Posted July 6, 2022 If you go for the Mac Studio, which monitor would you get?  Apple's on Studio Display or something by Eizo, Benq or similar?  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 6, 2022 Share #44 Â Posted July 6, 2022 Depends on what you want to see. Apple Display show nice colors and a hardware calibrating display like Eizo CG, NEC show right colors. I would choose an Eizo CG or at least a pendant from NEC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted July 6, 2022 Share #45  Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, verwackelt said: Depends on what you want to see. Apple Display show nice colors and a hardware calibrating display like Eizo CG, NEC show right colors. I would choose an Eizo CG or at least a pendant from NEC Right for what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 6, 2022 Share #46  Posted July 6, 2022 Correct colors for coordination with agencies, printers, labs and clients… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mub Posted July 6, 2022 Share #47  Posted July 6, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I had a Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) and was able to process 60MP files without any issues. have now a Mac studio M1 max (base config) and i do not see a significant improvement in speed working with capture one 22. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 6, 2022 Share #48  Posted July 6, 2022 vor 27 Minuten schrieb mub: I had a Mac Pro 6,1 (2013) and was able to process 60MP files without any issues. have now a Mac studio M1 max (base config) and i do not see a significant improvement in speed working with capture one 22. I had a mac Mini 2018 with 64 GB ram and eGPU and now i have the Mac Studio ultra. With small files like a 60MB RAW there is really no huge difference. But if i have to edit hundreds of IQ4 files and edit PSDs that goes above 10 or 15 GB the new machine is way faster… And lower power consumption. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted July 6, 2022 Share #49 Â Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) According to Geekbench https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks 2013 Mac Pro with 12 cores is equivalent to a M1 MacBook in heavily multithreaded workflows like bulk exporting of images For single threaded processing like zooming into an image, the M1 (base processor) is about 2x faster than the 2013 Mac Pro Single threaded processing speed is similar across all M1 variants, regardless of base, Pro, Max, Ultra Multithreaded processing for the M1 Pro/Max is 50% faster than the base M1 Multithreaded processing for the M1 Ultra is about 2.9x faster than the base M1 All of the above assumes pure CPU workloads but you may benefit from GPU acceleration in cases where your post processing software supports such acceleration. Edited July 6, 2022 by beewee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted July 20, 2022 Share #50  Posted July 20, 2022 I believe the whistling noise related to the Mac Studio has solely been relegated to the M1 Pro model. I have the Ultra model which uses a more substantial copper heat sink and fans and it makes no noise that I can hear at all. Mine is specced with 64GB, 48-core M1 Ultra and 8TB SSD. I used to have a pair of Studio Displays with the articulating joint but was rather unimpressed, so returned them for the Pro Display XDR (VESA mount) and have been super happy with the set up. Erik  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted July 20, 2022 Share #51 Â Posted July 20, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 12:17 PM, verwackelt said: and eGPU Which graphics card in the eGPU? Â I use an AMD WX 8200 card in a Sonnet eGFX. Â I only have a relatively few number of IQ4 files (Capture One to .tif to PS because Phase One prevents Adobe from opening its raw format) and I always work in .psd. Â I have never found the processing time in PS to be les than instantaneous, other then when applying some Nik Silver Efex adjustments or during some save operations to a different file format. Â I would expect a significant difference in opening folders in Bridge. Â I do keep all my photo folders to less than 72 images to prevent folder opening from bogging down workflow. The lease on my Mac Mini is up in 12 months. Â I expect a Mac Studio will replace it even though I would no longer be able to use Parallels for Windows OS or an eGPU. On 7/6/2022 at 12:48 PM, beewee said: 2013 Mac Pro with 12 cores is equivalent to a M1 MacBook The Firepro graphics in the 2013 Mac Pro was obsolete soon after the late 2013 release. Â A mid-grade Mac Mini was faster when the last Intel Minis were released in 2018. Â Yet Apple soldiered on with the 2013 Mac Pro and Firepro for 6 years! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 20, 2022 Share #52  Posted July 20, 2022 vor 42 Minuten schrieb zeitz: Which graphics card in the eGPU? It is a Vega 56. Now i have the Studio Ultra an have no need for en eGPU in the moment… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 22, 2022 Share #53 Â Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 4:05 PM, verwackelt said: Depends on what you want to see. Apple Display show nice colors and a hardware calibrating display like Eizo CG, NEC show right colors. I would choose an Eizo CG or at least a pendant from NEC Or, to save money, an Eizo CS and external calibrating. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 22, 2022 Share #54  Posted July 22, 2022 Yes a client of mine, an agency with 8 workspaces for retouching and postwork gone that route. 8 CS displays and just one calibrator. For me as a single freelancer i like the CG solution very much because i do not need a separate calibrator… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted July 22, 2022 Share #55 Â Posted July 22, 2022 15 hours ago, jaapv said: Or, to save money, an Eizo CS and external calibrating. The Apple Pro Display XDR is factory custom-calibrated. Color accuracy is excellent (but the display is very expensive). Erik Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 22, 2022 Share #56  Posted July 22, 2022 As i know it is factory calibrated for reference purposes in video poststudios. To recalibrate it for another target like Print Fogra 39 D50 you need a compatible spectral photometer which is another 10000 or more €. Or is it included in that display price? I do not know exactly… For most photographer user it is not necessary to have that very expensive screen that cost about 5500€. The stand is additional 1000€! 😬 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted July 22, 2022 Share #57 Â Posted July 22, 2022 You really only need 2.5K resolution to gauge print sharpness. Anything more then that is overkill. In fact, 4K and above makes it very difficult to see changes in sharpness. Everything looks sharp all the time. Eizo CS gets my vote. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 22, 2022 Share #58  Posted July 22, 2022 Right i forgot to write. Watching a photo in 100% on a 6k display is not so sensible. The 2560x1440 from a 27" CG or CS is the right dimension. But do not buy the cheapest external calibrator for the CS. My client was very stingy at first and bought a cheap one but wasn't very happy with it. He has now a X-rite i1. But the CS and the i1 together are almost expensive as the CG with build in calibrator. It is best to search for a bundle that is with a nice discount… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted July 23, 2022 Share #59  Posted July 23, 2022 12 hours ago, verwackelt said: As i know it is factory calibrated for reference purposes in video poststudios. To recalibrate it for another target like Print Fogra 39 D50 you need a compatible spectral photometer which is another 10000 or more €. Or is it included in that display price? I do not know exactly… For most photographer user it is not necessary to have that very expensive screen that cost about 5500€. The stand is additional 1000€! 😬 From Apple's website: Every Pro Display XDR undergoes a state-of-the-art factory display calibration process on the assembly line to ensure the accuracy of the P3 wide color panel and the individual backlight LEDs. In addition, the factory calibration process enables sophisticated built-in algorithms to accurately reproduce a variety of color spaces used by media workflows today, including sRGB, BT.601, BT.709, and even P3-ST.2084 (HDR). https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210804 The display doesn't come with a calibration device. I have and used a i1 Display Plus but the result was not better than factory calibration. Erik Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted July 23, 2022 Share #60  Posted July 23, 2022 Yes Apple says you should use one of the very expensive photocolorimeter that are suggested in the link below. factory calibration is nice, but i think every display has to be recalibrated time by time. https://support.apple.com/kb/DL2058?locale=de_DE But good to know that an i1 seems to work on it. You are the first i know that put his hands so deep in the pockets and bought such a display. Most Clients of mine that are postproduction studios decided to buy LG, Nec or Eizo… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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