digitalfx Posted January 19, 2022 Share #41 Posted January 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 53 minutes ago, SrMi said: What are you guys comparing? Wifi to iPhone vs cable to PC? Cable to MacBook Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Hi digitalfx, Take a look here A running tally of M11 complaints so far. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
setuporg Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share #42 Posted January 19, 2022 48 minutes ago, Yarosuav said: I’m still waiting for my pre-order to show up, so no complaints from me! Or as they said in late July 1914, peace man!:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted January 19, 2022 Share #43 Posted January 19, 2022 If you don't like the M11, don't buy one. I think I said the same thing when they were whinging the M10 bettery was smaller at the M10 release. Probably the same people too. Some people will ever be miserable....... 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 20, 2022 Share #44 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, setuporg said: So, if you peruse the new sub forum thoroughly, you can see complaints about: annoying always-on live view shutter mode shutter noise, clunk upon turning on shutter open all the time gathering dust function buttons failing intermittently camera freezing without a clue as to why the thin sensor still not helping with wide lenses in the corners Sony colors confusing EVF display implementation @setuporg Some that you forgot - Black paint is too damn abrasive! Black paint is too damn slick! Black paint is too damn black! Black paint is not damn black enough!! 😎 Edited January 20, 2022 by Herr Barnack 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarosuav Posted January 20, 2022 Share #45 Posted January 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, Herr Barnack said: @setuporg Some that you forgot - Black paint is too damn abrasive Black paint is too damn slick Black paint is too damn black Black paint is not damn black enough 😎 Black paint feels too light! Black paint feels cheap! But silver chrome is too heavy! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 20, 2022 Share #46 Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, SrMi said: What are you guys comparing? Wifi to iPhone vs cable to PC? USB-C cable for iPad Pro and Fotos app. the better cable does up to 800MBs a sec, the USB-C 2.0 does 40Mb/s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 20, 2022 Share #47 Posted January 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, Photoworks said: USB-C cable for iPad Pro and Fotos app. the better cable does up to 800MBs a sec, the USB-C 2.0 does 40Mb/s Is that theoretical or measured with M11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 20, 2022 Share #48 Posted January 20, 2022 I did a quick test and copied 10 images in 7 seconds. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobjuul Posted January 20, 2022 Share #49 Posted January 20, 2022 The M11 having a sony sensor doesn't have to mean it has colors like a sony camera. Sony makes sensors for most of the camera brands out there. I don't hear anyone complain about fuji colors (sony sensor) or Nikon colors (sony sensor) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
opera207 Posted January 20, 2022 Share #50 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Function buttons failing intermittently is not just a “complaint “, it’s REAL folks, my m11 has been sent back to the service center and I am considering to get a new one or just wait for the m11p. I have a social media group with 20 m11 users, 5 of them have sent their m11 back due to this problem! Edited January 20, 2022 by opera207 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted January 20, 2022 Share #51 Posted January 20, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 6:33 AM, setuporg said: Sony colors I really think this is fakenews, Reid’s review is very clear about it, it’s rather the opposite, the M11 being the most neutral in colors, with a tiny difference with the M10R 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 20, 2022 Share #52 Posted January 20, 2022 13 hours ago, setuporg said: Or as they said in late July 1914, peace man!:) And then Lord Kitchener banned the use of cameras on the Western Front. 17 hours ago, Fotoklaus said: Let' s see for what price you can sell your M11 in 50 years and how long it will work. Good point, but our grandchildren will have made massive amounts with Bit Coin and they will be buying yachts and racehorses rather than Leicas. 23 hours ago, jaapv said: IIRC the M8 in 2006 was 4190 Euro and the M9 in 2009 was 4190 Euro... As a comparison, the price of petrol has doubled since then... I'm trying to figure out the relationship with the price of 'petrol'. Logistics costs may have increased, but there is hardly that much more plastic in an M11 compared to an M8 or M9 😀. I don't have my M11 yet, but I will report here if there are any issues. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 20, 2022 Share #53 Posted January 20, 2022 Just a comparison with something most of us can relate to. I could quote accumulated inflation, which would come much to the same thing. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share #54 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, otto.f said: I really think this is fakenews, Reid’s review is very clear about it, it’s rather the opposite, the M11 being the most neutral in colors, with a tiny difference with the M10R Yes the review is reassuring although it does say the M11 colors are more saturated. I hope the Leica Look is preserved! 1 hour ago, willeica said: And then Lord Kitchener banned the use of cameras on the Western Front. After which he sank off Orkney Islands going to Russia on HMS Hampshire that struck a German mine... Edited January 20, 2022 by setuporg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted January 20, 2022 Share #55 Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, setuporg said: the M11 colors are more saturated. I hope the Leica Look is preserved! stick to an M9 or the M10R then, like me 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share #56 Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, otto.f said: stick to an M9 or the M10R then, like me I do have and enjoy both, but the siren call of M11 is hard to at least evaluate... Even though this one really calls for M11-P. Where P would be much more substantial than for M9-P or M10-P... Except the wait would be too long.:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
opera207 Posted January 20, 2022 Share #57 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Artin said: Is it all the function buttons or one particular? Mine have been fine and work as they should fn button on the left is ok, the top fn and back wheel press buttons have malfunction, they might work fine even with ten+ clicks then miss one or two clicks. Situation on my m11 is worse, nearly 4/10 of the clicks on the back wheel are missed. Edited January 20, 2022 by opera207 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted January 20, 2022 Share #58 Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, willeica said: Good point, but our grandchildren will have made massive amounts with Bit Coin and they will be buying yachts and racehorses rather than Leicas. Which is why, as the saying goes, 'youth is wasted on the young.' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share #59 Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Tailwagger said: Which is why, as the saying goes, 'youth is wasted on the young.' I really wish we had a sad reaction... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted January 20, 2022 Share #60 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, opera207 said: fn button on the left is ok, the top fn and back wheel press buttons have malfunction, they might work fine even with ten+ clicks then miss one or two clicks. Situation on my m11 is worse, nearly 4/10 of the clicks on the back wheel are missed. I've noticed this on occasion, as well as lag. I seriously doubt this is a hardware issue. It feels like problems in software related to mulit-tasking or prioritization. Feels like the camera is prioritizing doing something else at the expense of responding to the UI. Edited January 20, 2022 by Tailwagger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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