jonoslack Posted April 13, 2023 Share #161 Posted April 13, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) https://www.slack.co.uk/leica-m11-monochrom.html it's out! 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chaemono Posted April 13, 2023 Share #162 Posted April 13, 2023 vor 20 Minuten schrieb jonoslack: https://www.slack.co.uk/leica-m11-monochrom.html it's out! Looking at the pictures on my mobile phone. Simply, wow! The tonality is unlike any other Monochrom I’ve seen before, like the M9M just better, a lot better. Plus, it adds huge cropability. Mine is in my car. I will do a comparison with the M10M to make sure I’m not hallucinating. Thank you! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted April 13, 2023 Share #163 Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chaemono said: Looking at the pictures on my mobile phone. Simply, wow! The tonality is unlike any other Monochrom I’ve seen before, like the M9M just better, a lot better. Plus, it adds huge cropability. Mine is in my car. I will do a comparison with the M10M to make sure I’m not hallucinating. Thank you! Glad to hear it works on a phone! always a bit of an issue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alik Posted April 13, 2023 Share #164 Posted April 13, 2023 Leica M11 Monochrom vs M10 Mono vs M11" width="200"> 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 13, 2023 Share #165 Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Thank, Jono, as usual. Nevertheless, I’ll happily stick with my M10M (and MM), preferring its simplicity, quiet and responsive shutter, compatibility with my M10-R (and nice black paint), and already stellar results in print. Rendering results depend mostly on me, even between my two Monochroms. And, as I print small-ish, only use RF, and have no need for super high ISO, many of the M11/M11M attributes are wasted on me. No need to fix what ain’t broken. But good to see that Leica remains committed to the Monochrom line. Jeff Edited April 13, 2023 by Jeff S 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted April 13, 2023 Share #166 Posted April 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chaemono said: Looking at the pictures on my mobile phone. Simply, wow! The tonality is unlike any other Monochrom I’ve seen before, like the M9M just better, a lot better. Plus, it adds huge cropability. Mine is in my car. I will do a comparison with the M10M to make sure I’m not hallucinating. Thank you! Hmmm, while its a good review and obviously great camera, I’d be careful of GAS hyperbole if I were you. The M10M is a great performer and with the same technique as Jono the tonality etc isn’t that far behind or much different from the M11M. But I’m sure those actual comparisons will be along soon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 13, 2023 Share #167 Posted April 13, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 9 Minuten schrieb charlesphoto99: Hmmm, while its a good review and obviously great camera, I’d be careful of GAS hyperbole if I were you. The M10M is a great performer and with the same technique as Jono the tonality etc isn’t that far behind or much different from the M11M. But I’m sure those actual comparisons will be along soon. It could be Jono’s processing. The M11M images look so creamy and the tones are so rich. I’m sure his M10M pictures would have looked equally good. I’ll do side by side comparisons and post the links to the DNGs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted April 13, 2023 Share #168 Posted April 13, 2023 I appreciate Jono's review and the pics look nice. That said, I've never once been able to make a judgment about a camera from web sized jpgs that have been processed by the user. It begins and ends with getting a raw file that I've processed - and ideally, also shot myself. The side by side crops with the M11 show something instructive, but the photographs - all of them could be done by the M10M depending on how you deal with files. Not knowing processing or exposure, I'd say the M11M looks to be just as sensitive with highlights, or least practically so, as the M10M - which is to say, you probably need to use similar technique to protect them. Recoverable blown highlights via color channels on a color sensor is maybe the only IQ advantage, but it looks like the color ones still have that advantage. Rest of it looks great and as another user said, not all relevant for my uses. I do appreciate that Leica got Andre Wagner to do the ads I just got in my inbox though - he's one of the best dudes using the M's today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 13, 2023 Share #169 Posted April 13, 2023 Pai😀d, just awaiting tracking info. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted April 13, 2023 Share #170 Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, pgh said: I appreciate Jono's review and the pics look nice. That said, I've never once been able to make a judgment about a camera from web sized jpgs that have been processed by the user. It begins and ends with getting a raw file that I've processed - and ideally, also shot myself. The side by side crops with the M11 show something instructive, but the photographs - all of them could be done by the M10M depending on how you deal with files. Not knowing processing or exposure, I'd say the M11M looks to be just as sensitive with highlights, or least practically so, as the M10M - which is to say, you probably need to use similar technique to protect them. Recoverable blown highlights via color channels on a color sensor is maybe the only IQ advantage, but it looks like the color ones still have that advantage. Rest of it looks great and as another user said, not all relevant for my uses. I do appreciate that Leica got Andre Wagner to do the ads I just got in my inbox though - he's one of the best dudes using the M's today. Hi There Good points - it's a really hard take - incidentally if you go to my website https://www.slack.co.uk you can click on the images for full sized jpgs which you can zoom in on. Some of them are as much as 25mb - should give you a better idea than web sized jpgs. I can also happily supply DNG files, but I've long since come to the conclusion that showing them isn't terribly useful - especially with a monochrom where they tend to look flat and especially with this one with it's huge dynamic range - you kinda have to do some post processing. As for the highlights I'm not sure that it's better - I just always take evasive action (never blow them). What is better than the M10M is the ability to pull quality details from the shadow areas. All the best 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted April 13, 2023 Share #171 Posted April 13, 2023 No thanks at that price. I'll save the 10 grand and stick with Henri. basic in every way bar image quality, the perfect M camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted April 13, 2023 Share #172 Posted April 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, costa43 said: No thanks at that price. I'll save the 10 grand and stick with Henri. basic in every way bar image quality, the perfect M camera. Hah! That's my Monochrom (Henri) . . . . but I'd have this instead if I could! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 13, 2023 Share #173 Posted April 13, 2023 vor 1 Stunde schrieb Alik: Great comparison with the M10M in this video but this guy seems obsessed with differences in detail and sharpness. The main difference to my eyes is the wider tonal range of the M11M. The wider distribution of tones in the night scene with the bridge and the church is so obvious. This confirms what Jono showed. I’m so lusting after the M11M tones already. Never felt this way about the M246 and the M10M where I always used a yellow filter as a standard. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted April 13, 2023 Share #174 Posted April 13, 2023 3 hours ago, jonoslack said: https://www.slack.co.uk/leica-m11-monochrom.html it's out! Good review, Jono. I'm still quite happy with the M9M, but it's tempting, especially the BSI sensor. That sensor makes the SL2-S an available-light monster, and stripping off the Bayer array would be gravy. You should probably stick to Barbour jackets. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted April 13, 2023 Share #175 Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, jonoslack said: Hah! That's my Monochrom (Henri) . . . . but I'd have this instead if I could! Me too, I was just trying to make myself feel better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperman Posted April 13, 2023 Share #176 Posted April 13, 2023 With every new release prices a constantly rising. The number of people willing or able to afford a new Leica is shrinking. In a few years Leica rangefinders will become a rich man's toy rather than a tool for photographers. I have been using Leica M's since 2008. I am kind of a Leica fan boy and I'm really worried about the future of Leica rangefinders. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted April 13, 2023 Share #177 Posted April 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, costa43 said: Me too, I was just trying to make myself feel better Imagine having to get to love it, write about it and then give it back! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted April 13, 2023 Share #178 Posted April 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, reaperman said: With every new release prices a constantly rising. The number of people willing or able to afford a new Leica is shrinking. But their sales are doing really well and lots of younger photographers are using them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperman Posted April 13, 2023 Share #179 Posted April 13, 2023 vor 12 Minuten schrieb jonoslack: But their sales are doing really well and lots of younger photographers are using them! I hope my Type 246 will last me a long time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 13, 2023 Share #180 Posted April 13, 2023 If you do get the camera, update the firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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