Dennis Posted July 14, 2022 Share #421 Posted July 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Matlock said: 1. Summaron 2.8cm f5.6 (screw mount). 2. Hektor 2.8cm f6.3. and 3. TTA 28mm f5.6. The first one has the Leica look 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray Vonn Posted July 14, 2022 Share #422 Posted July 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, Dennis said: The first one has the Leica look No, the second one does (love it!)😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted July 14, 2022 Share #423 Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ray Vonn said: No, the second one does (love it!)😂 What you are trying to say is "that has the look of an 87 year old lens". Edited July 14, 2022 by Matlock 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted July 14, 2022 Share #424 Posted July 14, 2022 Thanks Peter! I'm a sucker for natural vignette (as opposed to that added in pp), so I prefer the top two... with a preference for the first as I prefer the way it vignettes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted July 14, 2022 Share #425 Posted July 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, Dennis said: Or it's included being a LHSA member Which is much cheaper if you go for a one month subscription. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted July 14, 2022 Share #426 Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Matlock said: What you are trying to say is "that has the look of an 87 year old lens". Yes. Was trying real hard, but you unlocked it for me (thanks). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted July 14, 2022 Share #427 Posted July 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, Ray Vonn said: Yes. Was trying real hard, but you unlocked it for me (thanks). We aim to please 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted July 14, 2022 Share #428 Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matlock said: We aim to please 🙂 How could you not with that rapier like wit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted July 14, 2022 Share #429 Posted July 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ray Vonn said: How could you not with that rapier like wit. Hmm, it's a little blunted these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 16, 2022 Share #430 Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 7:31 PM, Matlock said: Here we have 1. Summaron 2.8cm f5.6 (screw mount). 2. Hektor 2.8cm f6.3. and 3. TTA 28mm f5.6. Straight out of camera with no PP. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! very interesting, between the summaron and TTArtisans, love both the results and its colour produced frm my amateur noobs eye, summaron has more vignette and lack contrasty which for some, including myself, is favorable the 7Artisan also came with the 28mm 5.6 which actually, from the sample fotos, make the TTartisan like the summaron in this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted July 16, 2022 Share #431 Posted July 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, jakontil said: very interesting, between the summaron and TTArtisans, love both the results and its colour produced frm my amateur noobs eye, summaron has more vignette and lack contrasty which for some, including myself, is favorable the 7Artisan also came with the 28mm 5.6 which actually, from the sample fotos, make the TTartisan like the summaron in this post Yes I agree. The article in Viewfinder by Marke Gilbert comes to much the same conclusions (be aware that my Summaron is the earlier screw mount version). Marke's summing up is as follows: "Is the TT Artisan 80% of the Leica for 10% of the cost? Without question". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 16, 2022 Share #432 Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Matlock said: Yes I agree. The article in Viewfinder by Marke Gilbert comes to much the same conclusions (be aware that my Summaron is the earlier screw mount version). Marke's summing up is as follows: "Is the TT Artisan 80% of the Leica for 10% of the cost? Without question". Yeah hard to say, everything comes down to the budget, and some people might actually think that 20% alone justify the price difference But having ttartisans as a good lens maker for the M would only bring good food to the table for users Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted July 16, 2022 Share #433 Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Matlock said: "Is the TT Artisan 80% of the Leica for 10% of the cost? Without question" 28 TTA : 28 Summaron = CV 35/1.4 II : 35 Lux v2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted July 16, 2022 Share #434 Posted July 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Matlock said: Yes I agree. The article in Viewfinder by Marke Gilbert comes to much the same conclusions (be aware that my Summaron is the earlier screw mount version). Marke's summing up is as follows: "Is the TT Artisan 80% of the Leica for 10% of the cost? Without question". The way I see it, the Summaron is 20 % of the TTA, for 1000% of the cost. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted July 16, 2022 Share #435 Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 5:31 AM, Matlock said: Here we have 1. Summaron 2.8cm f5.6 (screw mount). 2. Hektor 2.8cm f6.3. and 3. TTA 28mm f5.6. Straight out of camera with no PP. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Looking at these pics - remember this is just my opinion! - I can understand getting the Summaron or the TTA, but have no interest in the Hektor which was at the time why I bought the Orion 15 instead of the Hektor. The Orion had that vintage look but also was sharp. The Hektor to me is just hazy, and if this was a lens made by someone NOT called Leica would be panned. As for the Summaron vs TTA? Well the results show that, IMO, the only similarity between the lenses is the outer cosmetic physical construction. The differences in optical design are very clear. The Summaron has its character, while the TTA basically shows that it is a very modern, compact 28mm option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted July 16, 2022 Share #436 Posted July 16, 2022 11 hours ago, jakontil said: ...summaron has more vignette and lack contrasty which for some, including myself, is favorable... More vignetting, yes, but it does not lack contrast unless you're talking about the original 28 Summaron. The new/re-issue 28 Summaron has modern coatings and a ton of contrast even wide open at f/5.6. If you're going off samples you've seen, then maybe they were taking in flat lighting. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326776-ttartisan-28mm-f56/?do=findComment&comment=4472038'>More sharing options...
Matlock Posted July 16, 2022 Share #437 Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Huss said: Looking at these pics - remember this is just my opinion! - I can understand getting the Summaron or the TTA, but have no interest in the Hektor which was at the time why I bought the Orion 15 instead of the Hektor. The Orion had that vintage look but also was sharp. The Hektor to me is just hazy, and if this was a lens made by someone NOT called Leica would be panned. As for the Summaron vs TTA? Well the results show that, IMO, the only similarity between the lenses is the outer cosmetic physical construction. The differences in optical design are very clear. The Summaron has its character, while the TTA basically shows that it is a very modern, compact 28mm option. I agree but the Hektor is now 87 years old so allowances could be made I think, also my sample has had a rather hard life by the look of it. Your comments regarding the TTA v Summaron are very much in line with the article in Viewfinder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 16, 2022 Share #438 Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, hdmesa said: More vignetting, yes, but it does not lack contrast unless you're talking about the original 28 Summaron. The new/re-issue 28 Summaron has modern coatings and a ton of contrast even wide open at f/5.6. If you're going off samples you've seen, then maybe they were taking in flat lighting. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! hi mate, i was referring to summaron reissue when compared to the ttartisans. for my usage alone, the reissue is plenty contrasty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted July 17, 2022 Share #439 Posted July 17, 2022 4 hours ago, jakontil said: hi mate, i was referring to summaron reissue when compared to the ttartisans. for my usage alone, the reissue is plenty contrasty I see. But doesn't the Summaron reissue retain better contrast than the TTArtisans when shooting into the sun, though? I'm trying to understand how it could have lower contrast but better flare resistance. Is that the one situation where the Summaron would retain better contrast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 17, 2022 Share #440 Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, hdmesa said: I see. But doesn't the Summaron reissue retain better contrast than the TTArtisans when shooting into the sun, though? I'm trying to understand how it could have lower contrast but better flare resistance. Is that the one situation where the Summaron would retain better contrast? the shot i seen was not against the sun when compared to the ttartisans or may be the samples shown wasnt consistent, but my reissue flares quite obvious when shot against the sun with that said, i always look for flares when doing some street photos which is what i like obviously from matlock samples, do you think there's a different in contrast between the two? thought slightly, the ttartisan seems better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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