John Ricard Posted October 24, 2021 Share #1 Posted October 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm sure many of you will dismiss the video for its clickbait title, but I think the point I'm making here is valid nevertheless. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted October 24, 2021 Share #2 Posted October 24, 2021 The sticker is very important, it has information to tell you how to dispose of the camera when you're done with it! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaS2 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #3 Posted October 25, 2021 Ouch! Watching the plastic being removed was like watching a band-aid being removed. John, you were so brave. I love your initials design. I forgot Leica would do that. Maybe I didn’t ever know. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 25, 2021 Share #4 Posted October 25, 2021 Glad you got that off your chest! Worth the 8 minutes to get to know you better. But a few points: 1) I personally - doing PJ rather than commercial - don't give a rat's #%& what the camera looks like. I use mine just like you use your Nikon Z6, or as Don McCullin said, "I only use the camera like I use a toothbrush. It does the job." I use gaffer's tape to cover the Leica logo on silver bodies (horrors!). I don't waste time removing the plastic (and label) - I just leave them on until they are so shredded and worn that they fall off on their own. But then my sales are "over the transom" so I don't have to sell my image, just my images. So no criticism implied. 2) "Vulcanite," as the name suggests, was a cladding made of vulcanized hard rubber, that was heat-molded onto the cameras. It went away around 1985 in the transition from the M4-P to the M6, and textured vinyl has been the standard "skin" ever since (except for the "ostrich-skin" special editions). The adhesive vinyl may have various textures embossed into it ("leatherette," "sharkskin," etc.) Real vulcanite is pretty easy to identify - by this time it is usually very hard and brittle, and "cracks off" as shrapnel shards rather than peeling off. I dropped an M4-2 around 2002, and it was like a grenade had gone off - vulcanite scraps scattered up to 20 feet away. (trivia - there is also a rare mineral called vulcanite. It is not used to cover cameras. ) 3) The M10 ISO knob is not based on the M4 rewind CRANK (which is both larger - and tilted), but on the knobs of the M2, M3, MP, and M-A. Comparison picture here: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/hands-on-review/classic-camera-review-the-leica-m4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted October 25, 2021 Share #5 Posted October 25, 2021 With all due respect, I might suggest that the beat up equipment is in fact a cultivated esthetic image. In particular covering the red dot… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #6 Posted October 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, KFo said: With all due respect, I might suggest that the beat up equipment is in fact a cultivated esthetic image. In particular covering the red dot… The OP does say that people buy Leicas for their looks rather than Nikons, which do a better job cheaper - I'm not clear from this video if he does the same. But hey, not everyone on the internet has to think alike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriehuber Posted October 25, 2021 Share #7 Posted October 25, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Unrelated from what's said in the Video I also hate the clear plastic stickers / protectors on the base plate and always remove it. But when someone chooses to keep them on their Camera its their choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strohscw Posted October 25, 2021 Share #8 Posted October 25, 2021 This video has now led me to remove this foil and the sticker on the bottom plate. Looks better now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted October 25, 2021 Share #9 Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: The OP does say that people buy Leicas for their looks rather than Nikons, which do a better job cheaper - I'm not clear from this video if he does the same. But hey, not everyone on the internet has to think alike. A lot of people think the Leica rangefinder camera looks unique but of course when the M line was launched there were hundreds of similar looking rangefinder cameras on the market. Just as so many EVF and DSLR's look alike now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goofballsupersized Posted October 25, 2021 Share #10 Posted October 25, 2021 Done it even before putting the battery in my M10-R BP, looks and feel way cooler. The little battery certification sticker however is a tremendous pain to remove. I removed the sticker but the glue stayed. After appling some screen cleaner it's finally gone. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #11 Posted October 25, 2021 There undoubtedly are people who buy Leicas for their looks and prestige. There are also plenty of people who buy Nikon and Canon because they are safe ("no one ever got fired for buying IBM Canon/Nikon"). I was asked for advice on buying a camera by a friend who I had done portrait shoot for: she wanted it for (a) small children and (b) birds. As her main experience was with P&S I suggested one of the Olympus MFT cameras. Her partner bought her a massive Canon DSLR, which I've never seen her using. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share #12 Posted October 25, 2021 7 hours ago, adan said: 3) The M10 ISO knob is not based on the M4 rewind CRANK (which is both larger - and tilted), but on the knobs of the M2, M3, MP, and M-A. Yeah, I was going to put a picture of an M4 into the video at that spot and when I looked it up I saw it had the titled crank The MP was the camera I was thinking of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #13 Posted October 25, 2021 Why am I keeping focused in this video on the lens hood that is more than 5° off to the right of a perfect alignment with the horizontal body axis ? Is it just me? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2021 Share #14 Posted October 25, 2021 The video just stereotypes every leica user as a certain type of person who gets the camera for a set reason and cares about looks blah blah. The Op has shown a lack of intelligence as well as a smug condescending view of painting everyone with the same brush. The plastic thing is not relevant to anything in my view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted October 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Stef63 said: Why am I keeping focused in this video on the lens hood that is more than 5° off to the right of a perfect alignment with the horizontal body axis ? Is it just me? No, it's not just you. It's me as well. When I looked over the video I kept noticing the same thing. Rest assure, it's not that way when I'm actually shooting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted October 26, 2021 Share #16 Posted October 26, 2021 I have solved said first-world problem by using a half case. And for my initials I just used a small black pen to blacken most of the white letters of „Leica Camera Wetzlar Made in Germany“ engraved on the back side, so that my initials remain unblackened on the black chrome body (my forum name is just my pseudonym, so no RB required). 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted October 26, 2021 Share #17 Posted October 26, 2021 I've always removed the stickers straight away, first day. Takes about five minutes, less time than that video (I watched a good 15 seconds). One caveat though, which could be a tough lesson: might want to wait a bit on removing to make sure the camera shakes out in case of needing a return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted October 27, 2021 6 hours ago, charlesphoto99 said: I've always removed the stickers straight away, first day. Takes about five minutes, less time than that video (I watched a good 15 seconds). One caveat though, which could be a tough lesson: might want to wait a bit on removing to make sure the camera shakes out in case of needing a return. True, but mine was engraved so there is no way anyone was taking it back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted October 27, 2021 Share #19 Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) I think the “biggest mistake Leica owners make” is to futz about the clear plastic and sticker on the bottom. PS - why is this post #1? Edited October 27, 2021 by IkarusJohn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 27, 2021 Share #20 Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Well. it is post #20 now (and I'm going to end up on the next page ). It's just an oddity of the new(ish) site software, that began ~2 (?) years ago. WHILE one is posting, the post numbers freeze at odd values - maybe if you get the notification of someone else posting while you write (I've never studied the effect in detail). They fix themselves (at some point) after "Submit Reply" is clicked. Edited October 27, 2021 by adan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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