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I'm a new member. Not a Leica buff, although 25 years ago I had a Leica IIIc with red scale Elmar just for fun. So the interest (and a little hands on knowledge) always has been there. Currently I like my cameras and lenses as old as possible, so I got this converted IA to II (which needs new curtains because of two sunburn holes) from 1929 (as per the Leica archive which I emailed), serial number 23983. Interestingly everything still works very smooth and well, so the holes in the curtains are a bummer (but not a showstopper)l Maybe it was serviced not long ago, but was neglected after that? The previous owner only had it for 2 years but he knew nothing about former owner(s).

The II came with a "wrong" lens (Summitar, 1949) so this weekend I won a converted 50mm f/3.5 Elmar without serial number and no infinity lock. I think this would pair well and is definitely period correct. Unfortunately it has its fair share of problems too (damaged front ring, haze). But nothing that cannot be solved I think,

I look forward to have this serviced and use it regularly!

Wish list:
- Black Leica Standard body.
- Original lens cap and hood (black FISON?) for the Elmar
- Original leather case

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And here they are, paired. 🙂

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My inherited IIIg… had it CLA’d in Wetzlar with some difficulties… sent in 4/2023, got it in 2/2024, film advance didn’t work, they repaired it, it still didn’t work, went back to Wetzlar again, worked for 2 films before the speed selector got out of function. Was repaired in Wetzlar on December 27th… seems to work now. Fingers crossed 🤞

I love using it.  Smaller than the M, and great results with the Collapsible Summicron !

 

 

 

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I love my IIIa.

I know modern(?) film cameras are easier to use but there's just something about "Barnacks". While they are comparatively harder to use I recently thought of a modified IIIa configuration that will make it 3x harder, but if I can pull it off the photographic results could be very interesting. I need to acquire some extra equipment first. We shall see. 🤔

At least I won't be trying actual tintype.

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Addictive tool

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On 12/16/2024 at 6:33 PM, SpotmaticSP said:

Wish list:
- Black Leica Standard body.
- Original lens cap and hood (black FISON?) for the Elmar
- Original leather case

Since that statement (wish) I obtained 5 more Leicas, among which this one. Delivered to CAPI Nijmegen (The Netherlands) on the 28th of february, 1933. Almost everything is marked CAPI including the camera.

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My IIIg (still / again) being in Wetzlar, I mounted the Summicron 50 collapsible on an older Leica III… a bit anachronic, as the body is from the 30’s and the Lens from the end of the 50’s. But nice to use. Impatient to see the results !

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M10M with apo 2/50

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14 hours ago, didier said:

My IIIg (still / again) being in Wetzlar, I mounted the Summicron 50 collapsible on an older Leica III… a bit anachronic, as the body is from the 30’s and the Lens from the end of the 50’s. But nice to use. Impatient to see the results !

 

M10M with apo 2/50

Great combination. I love anachronic set ups. See my 1939 IIId with 2000 Summilux.

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A new to me black/nickel Leica III (F) to complete my little black/nickel "trilogy collection" which also includes a Leica I (A) and Leica II (D) - converted from I (A). It is an user-collection and I run several films through the camera every year. I admittedly use my M cameras more but have immense pleasure in having these, almost 100 years old marvels, in use as they were intended.

The cameras are supplemented with the following lenses; a nickel Elmar 5cm (un-numbered), a nickel/black "fat" Elmar 9cm f4 (1932) and a nickel Elmar 3,5cm f/3.5 (un-numbered).
The only thing I feel I am missing is a black or nickel torpedo finder to complete the setup. My chrome VIDOM looks a little out of place.

This camera is No. 75029 so started out as one of the first 4000 Leica II (D)'s and was converted at a later unknown time. I have not consulted the Leica Archive yet to see if they have info on conversion date.

The lens is a Summar 5cm f/2, nickel with black rim No. 186042 (1932). As far as I can understand from the Leica Wiki, this is very early and should originally have been among the first 2000 rigid lenses - but must have been converted - but when? - perhaps @jerzy can comment on that?

The aperture ring on the lens is very tight, but I'll wait dealing with that until I know if the camera will need attention as well. Shutter sounds fine and I will shoot a film this weekend.

The remainder of the trilogy:

 

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according to Hahne some of rigid Summars were converted in the factory still before shipping, 186042 (together with,,43 and ,,44) belongs to this group, see below  (Sumus is codename for retractable Summar)

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2 hours ago, jerzy said:

according to Hahne some of rigid Summars were converted in the factory still before shipping, 186042 (together with,,43 and ,,44) belongs to this group, see below.

Excellent information- thanks Jerzy!

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In my collection I have four Barnack cameras, that are also in use.
Originally I used reloadable cassettes in all these cameras so as to use 100 feet rolls of black-and-white film.

Now with three Barnacks this led to frames that sank through the perforations.
[The Leica IIIg is the exception]
So originally I solved this problem by inserting a small plastic disk on the base plate.

But with this solution I could not experiment with the original Leitz brass cassettes anymore.
So when I could acquire some of these, I removed the compensating disks again.

It was my understanding that in this way the frames would sit perfectly between the perforations again.
To my surprise, this is not the case.
There is still some sinking involved, but much less so as with plastic reloadable cassetttes without a compensating disk.

So what am I doing wrong?
Or is a little sinking to be welcomed as it is a characteristic of taking pictures with a real Barnack?

Second question:

Is this 'I love my Barnack' environment intended for discussing hardware?
Or is it also the place for sharing pictures taken with a Barnack camera?

Roland 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Roland Zwiers said:

There is still some sinking involve

Are you using FILCA or IXMOO cassettes?

The latter are shorter and will still drag the film down a little, although less than a modern cassette.

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37 minutes ago, nitroplait said:

Are you using FILCA or IXMOO cassettes?

The latter are shorter and will still drag the film down a little, although less than a modern cassette.

That's correct: a Barnack should use the longer FILCA to avoid this problem, except for the later IIIf and IIIg that have the "pusher" on the baseplate to keep the film centered.

BTW: the IIIf & g baseplate with the pusher finger had a channel milled in the diecast shutter crate to allow the pusher to reach up to the lower film rail. Although the baseplate is the same dimension as the IIIc plate, the IIIc does not have the milled channel (unless modified for it), so the pusher baseplate won't fit on the earlier model. I have a IIIf black dial that started out as a IIIc and was modified by Leitz to add the IIIf flash synch - but they didn't mill the channel for the baseplate pusher. They just used the IIIc baseplate for the synch mod. I bought a IIIf baseplate for it only to find it wouldn't fit...

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I have the feeling that the cassettes themselves are very similar.
The difference is in the spools.

The spools on the left are flat-footed.
The spools on the right are on heels.

Another observation is that with regular brass spools I get problems with rewinding the film.
This problem disappears when I use a heeled plastic spool instead.

In the next slide I will show three atypical spools with some telescopic feature.
Two of these may be of third-party origin.
But the third one is engraved 'Germany'.

What is the function of this telescopic feature?

 

 

 

 

 

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