ianman Posted September 16, 2021 Share #101 Posted September 16, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 9/14/2021 at 3:59 PM, Ouroboros said: Another: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for these. It is so refreshing (and easy on the eyes) to see photos that are not too contrasty. On 9/14/2021 at 8:59 PM, Ouroboros said: I said earlier in this thread that I think there is likely to be more to this lens than froth. froth! Love it! 😂 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 16, 2021 Posted September 16, 2021 Hi ianman, Take a look here Rumor: New Heliar Classic 50mm f/1.5 VM. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
FrozenInTime Posted September 16, 2021 Share #102 Posted September 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Al Brown said: If this is the full image the field curvature on the right side is quite extreme. Have you checked the lens for being decentered? Don't want this thread to be too artistic do we 😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4276122'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted September 16, 2021 Share #103 Posted September 16, 2021 vor 29 Minuten schrieb FrozenInTime: Don't want this thread to be too artistic do we 😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Nice pavement anyway 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 16, 2021 Share #104 Posted September 16, 2021 By special request - for @Ouroboros an extra frothy image 🙂 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With a UV filter and a pound coin sized disk of black electrical tape providing Thambar emulation 🙂 and yes normal f/1.5 image highlights also become more diffuse. 8 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With a UV filter and a pound coin sized disk of black electrical tape providing Thambar emulation 🙂 and yes normal f/1.5 image highlights also become more diffuse. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4276194'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted September 16, 2021 Share #105 Posted September 16, 2021 I like it and a very nice example of onion rings. I can even smell them! 🧅 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 16, 2021 Share #106 Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: By special request - for @Ouroboros an extra frothy image 🙂 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! With a UV filter and a pound coin sized disk of black electrical tape providing Thambar emulation 🙂 and yes normal f/1.5 image highlights also become more diffuse. Reminds me of the disappointment I felt with the first roll of Kodachrome I took with my then new (sometime in the 1970's) 500mm catadioptric lens that I thought would be the answer to my long telephoto lens lust. I sold it shortly afterwards! Edited September 16, 2021 by Ouroboros 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 16, 2021 Share #107 Posted September 16, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 15 minutes ago, Al Brown said: Looks 100% legit. Are you happy with the lens? I'm certainly happy with mine! I think CV have done a good job with the Heliar Classic. It makes an interesting character alternative to their other 50mm lenses, especially the 50mm apo-lanthar and f1.2 nokton asph, also to Leica's own 50mm summarit-m, summicron and summilux asph lenses. At £649 for a new lens that is 95% equal to Leica materials and manufacturing quality with it's own creative possibilities as a bonus, what's not to like? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 16, 2021 Share #108 Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Al Brown said: Looks 100% legit. Are you happy with the lens? Yes, having fun. I think it's a keeper ; character of a MS Optics lens without the ergonomic quirks. The DIY centre spot filter seems to perfectly balance out the f/1.5 falloff Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4276329'>More sharing options...
kivis Posted September 17, 2021 Share #109 Posted September 17, 2021 I have the CV 50mm F1.5 Nokton ii. Any comparisons, real world? The Heliar looks outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted September 17, 2021 Share #110 Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, FrozenInTime said: Yes, having fun. I think it's a keeper ; character of a MS Optics lens without the ergonomic quirks. The DIY centre spot filter seems to perfectly balance out the f/1.5 falloff Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Whoa, glowy! 😀. If no one had said this came from the new heliar id assume it had been taken with a diffusion filter applied to it. Hope to see future portrait shots which is were this lens would perform the most id imagine. I guess theres no need to buy a diffusion filter...or do you 🤔 ie max glow. Congrats to all those who all ready gotten a copy. All the best Edited September 17, 2021 by cboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted September 17, 2021 Share #111 Posted September 17, 2021 vor 6 Stunden schrieb kivis: I have the CV 50mm F1.5 Nokton ii. Any comparisons, real world? The Heliar looks outstanding. Completely different lenses! (I own the new Nokton II too) The Nokton is sharp across the frame with higher contrast. If you like the Heliar, you need them both 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted September 17, 2021 Share #112 Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, cboy said: If no one had said this came from the new heliar id assume it had been taken with a diffusion filter applied to it. What if someone wrote "The DIY centre spot filter seems to perfectly balance out the f/1.5 falloff"? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted September 17, 2021 Share #113 Posted September 17, 2021 20 hours ago, FrozenInTime said: By special request - for @Ouroboros an extra frothy image 🙂 Special award coming your way... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4276605'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 17, 2021 Share #114 Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, cboy said: Whoa, glowy! 😀. If no one had said this came from the new heliar id assume it had been taken with a diffusion filter applied to it. 46 minutes ago, ianman said: What if someone wrote "The DIY centre spot filter seems to perfectly balance out the f/1.5 falloff"? \ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! First tried a 18 mm diameter sized dot , then increased it to 24 mm as used for the photos shown. The dot seems invisible through the viewfinder at f/1.5 and f/2 then increasingly appears as stopped down further. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! First tried a 18 mm diameter sized dot , then increased it to 24 mm as used for the photos shown. The dot seems invisible through the viewfinder at f/1.5 and f/2 then increasingly appears as stopped down further. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4276624'>More sharing options...
convexferret Posted September 17, 2021 Share #115 Posted September 17, 2021 So, does anyone have the new Heliar f1.5 and the old 50 f2 from the last decade and can compare them. My 50 f2 while it has character doesn't seem anything like as "funky" as the new f1.5. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 21, 2021 Share #116 Posted September 21, 2021 M10 f/1.5 spot filter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Dysart Pillars art installation 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Dysart Pillars art installation ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4278754'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 21, 2021 Share #117 Posted September 21, 2021 M10 no filter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cropped 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cropped ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323521-rumor-new-heliar-classic-50mm-f15-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4278756'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 21, 2021 Share #118 Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Al Brown said: Mr. Huff who talks to the deceased has resurrected a review of the Heliar.https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2021/09/20/the-voigtlander-50-f-1-5-heliar-lens-review-the-dream-queen He actually does a good job explaining the lens. Over on the Fred Miranda site, he started the tests as if it was any other lens … then decided it can’t be treated so, and will continue after his third sample arrives, which will have just he same character as the first ones https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1719880?b=2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted September 24, 2021 Share #119 Posted September 24, 2021 After some setbacks, I finally put the new CV Heliar Classic 1.5 on my SL2 and took some photos. Very late to this party. I am not sure what to make of this lens in my shooting so far. I was really pumped for it and preordered the lens. I have no complaints about build quality or function. Maybe time will change my mind, but at the moment, it is off the camera and on my desk. It's a peculiar lens to be sure. It's a decent portrait lens if you are looking for a softer look. It does have a signature look to it. I don't have any outside portraits and I need to take a few to be fair to the lens. I think I am learning that I like fast, sharp lenses (the CV Nokton 1.5 ii is on my camera now). Softer lenses don't seem to do it for me. I will continue testing and experimenting with it. I don't think it will make it's way off my shelf very often. Maybe this will change with time as taste sometimes does. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted September 24, 2021 Share #120 Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, 6bit said: After some setbacks, I finally put the new CV Heliar Classic 1.5 on my SL2 and took some photos. Very late to this party. I am not sure what to make of this lens in my shooting so far. I was really pumped for it and preordered the lens. I have no complaints about build quality or function. Maybe time will change my mind, but at the moment, it is off the camera and on my desk. It's a peculiar lens to be sure. It's a decent portrait lens if you are looking for a softer look. It does have a signature look to it. I don't have any outside portraits and I need to take a few to be fair to the lens. I think I am learning that I like fast, sharp lenses (the CV Nokton 1.5 ii is on my camera now). Softer lenses don't seem to do it for me. I will continue testing and experimenting with it. I don't think it will make it's way off my shelf very often. Maybe this will change with time as taste sometimes does. Not a lens you'd buy as your only 50mm, but different enough from the rest of the choices to be a very interesting lens. I'm wondering if CV have taken some inspiration from the success of Lensbaby's Velvet range with the Heliar Classic. If CV have a similar 'family' of focal lengths (28mm, 50mm, 75/85/90mm) in mind for the Heliar Classic as a future range of lenses with similar attributes I think they might be onto something, especially for wedding and portrait photographers. Time will tell. In the meantime, I'm enjoying mine very much. Edited September 24, 2021 by Ouroboros 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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