mediumformula Posted January 16, 2022 Share #41 Posted January 16, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) It depends on what type of light conditions you are shooting in. With 400ASA film if you are shooting at dusk or indoors you will be happy to have an extra stop of light on the summilux. For me it is essential as I use my MP + Summilux + TriX to shoot ethnographic documentary photography where I am at the mercy of the natural lighting I find my subjects in. I did a bunch of ethnographic photography this summer with the above mentioned combo and I was surprised at how often I was opening up to 1.4 for light reasons. That being said, if you are shooting a modern digital camera you would be fine with f2 maximum aperture. But for fixed film speeds of 400, I would recommend 1.4 if you think you will be in the type of lighting conditions that require an extra stop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted January 16, 2022 Share #42 Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Sorry, I forgot to mention the very nice (special ?) rendering of Summicron 1951 made, I mean collapsible 50mm Summicron LTM mount that I used on M, said radioactive lens (a bit yellow when one looks through the lens ) nice rendering I rediscovered in pictures I see that with old style film (Fujifilm Neopan SS here), the combo pleases me a lot. Not the sharpest lens, but "lovely" when used with knowledge on many subjects 👍 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! .. ... the one at center on IIIg Edited January 16, 2022 by a.noctilux 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! .. ... the one at center on IIIg ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323148-can-i-live-with-a-50mm-cron-f2/?do=findComment&comment=4358222'>More sharing options...
George Stoichev Posted January 17, 2022 Share #43 Posted January 17, 2022 On 7/30/2021 at 7:35 AM, kivis said: Can I live with a 50mm 'Cron f2 on my M-A instead of a "lux f1.4? I shoot strictly with 400 ISO film. Am I going to lose a lot of shots in low light w/o an F1.4 lens? Sure you can.I do. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted January 17, 2022 Share #44 Posted January 17, 2022 And don´t forget size and weight of the lens. An M with a 2/50 is a rather lighweight, compact package. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted January 17, 2022 Share #45 Posted January 17, 2022 Because of the many instances of confirmation bias here (ie “I have absolutely no regrets over the stunning XX Summilux which I would have buried with me as you couldn’t prize it from my dead hands etc etc”), it’s hard to imagine living with just one 50mm lens but you definitely can, especially a Summicron. Years spent with just the one lens would result in some fantastic images I reckon. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atournas Posted January 17, 2022 Share #46 Posted January 17, 2022 From my experience, the 35mm is more appropriate for a one-lens run. The 50mm never appealed to me as a general purpose lens. But it is an excellent lens for "artistic" photography, because one can manage the surroundings of his/her subject better. I have two 50mm Summicrons, the M and the R, and one 35mm-M, now permanently on an M9 and rarely used. And I'm happy with all that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted January 17, 2022 Share #47 Posted January 17, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not sure if the OP has gotten the answers he needs but I'll make a couple of comments. I have a Cron and a Lux ASPH and if I can only have one it is the Cron. It's a Midland v4. Small, sharp, and it has a focusing tab, which the current version does not. (When I say current version i'm not referring to the APO.) I love the Lux ASPH but I leave it at home unless I know I'll need the extra stop or a thin depth of field. Depending on your circumstances, you can always push your 400 ISO file and pick up a stop or two. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Posted January 18, 2022 Share #48 Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) When I started with rangefinders, 50mm was my favorite focal length. Found it easy to see that perspective, it allowed me to shoot w/o thinking much, but over time (many years) I gravitated to a wider lens (35mm) for versatility. For me, given my type of photography, a 35mm lens can do pretty much everything a 50mm can do but has a few additional tricks up its' sleeve. I, however, didn't find it a natural lens to use initially and had to stay on top of it. It has become more natural now that I've used it relatively exclusively for several years. That's just me though, and many fine photographers shoot just a 50mm. Ha, ha, it'll give you an excuse to have an M3 and shoot one of those super fast F/1 lenses. These days I think you should pick one or the other (50 or 35), because the limitation of using just the one lens will force you to be a more creative, perceptive photographer. That's just how I feel today; tomorrow it may be something different -- lots of good photographers use both lenses. If size and weight aren't issues, go for the faster lens because that extra speed will open up creative potential. Not about absolute need for speed, since speed enhancing developers like Diafine can compensate for that, but just f/1.4 can create some real moody shots. Edited January 18, 2022 by TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBestSLIsALeicaflex Posted January 18, 2022 Share #49 Posted January 18, 2022 5 hours ago, RayD28 said: Not sure if the OP has gotten the answers he needs but I'll make a couple of comments. I have a Cron and a Lux ASPH and if I can only have one it is the Cron. It's a Midland v4. Small, sharp, and it has a focusing tab, which the current version does not. (When I say current version i'm not referring to the APO.) I love the Lux ASPH but I leave it at home unless I know I'll need the extra stop or a thin depth of field. Depending on your circumstances, you can always push your 400 ISO file and pick up a stop or two. I found the same with me when I had these lenses. Ha, ha, I got the Summilux Asph for the then hefty sum of $2595 thinking it would the be all and end all, and optically it was, but I found myself favoring the 5th Summicron for practical reasons of size and weight. Then when I started shooting more B&W, then almost exclusively B&W, I didn't like the aspherical for that medium. Just me; some love the modern look on B&W film. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosophos Posted January 18, 2022 Share #50 Posted January 18, 2022 On 7/30/2021 at 12:35 AM, kivis said: Can I live with a 50mm 'Cron f2 on my M-A instead of a "lux f1.4? I shoot strictly with 400 ISO film. Yes. —Peter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 14, 2022 Share #51 Posted February 14, 2022 Life is strange ... We adapt our lifes a lot or we just changed. As here, I was fan of Summicron 5cm/50mm for decades. Using other lenses of course, but found the Summicron "the-lens-to-grab" as I always have many lying around. Now, I even don't know when was the last time I grabbed one 5cm/50mm Summicron. Summarit-M 2.5/50mm had "replaced" it (them) for a while. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Stoichev Posted February 18, 2022 Share #52 Posted February 18, 2022 On 7/30/2021 at 7:35 AM, kivis said: Can I live with a 50mm 'Cron f2 on my M-A instead of a "lux f1.4? I shoot strictly with 400 ISO film. Am I going to lose a lot of shots in low light w/o an F1.4 lens? Summicron M 50mm f/2 is superb lens in sharpness and agronomy is better than Summilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alb59 Posted February 19, 2022 Share #53 Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) I have a Summicron DR and a Summicron-M. They’re amazing. I can’t imagine a Summilux 1.4 having any advantage, unless you’re a photojournalist on assignment and the one stop in the field might be useful sometimes, tho the extra weight and size could be a bummer. Edited February 19, 2022 by alb59 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 19, 2022 Share #54 Posted February 19, 2022 9 hours ago, George Stoichev said: Summicron M 50mm f/2 is superb lens in sharpness and agronomy is better than Summilux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/323148-can-i-live-with-a-50mm-cron-f2/?do=findComment&comment=4386472'>More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted February 19, 2022 Share #55 Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) On 7/30/2021 at 10:05 AM, kivis said: Can I live with a 50mm 'Cron f2 on my M-A instead of a "lux f1.4? Yes. Edited February 19, 2022 by Ouroboros 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted February 19, 2022 Share #56 Posted February 19, 2022 I have the Cron because it's smaller and lighter, also I have the v4 with the tab that helps me focus faster than the lux. If you don't want that DoF medium format feeling from the 1.4 aperture .. the Cron is an all around lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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