lct Posted June 20, 2022 Share #181 Posted June 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 11 hours ago, LarsHP said: For reference, I think it may be helpful to add that the Ultron II vignettes less at f/4 and onwards than the Summicron. May i ask how you compared? Just curious as at f/4 and on i can hardly tell a difference between my Leica copies. On M lenses at least, R lenses are another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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genji Posted June 20, 2022 Share #182 Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 11:23 PM, Ouroboros said: A definite contender for the most idiosyncratic reason I've ever seen for selling a lens! Given that the Leica Forum is a motherlode of idiosyncratic opinions, I’ll take that as a compliment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted June 21, 2022 Share #183 Posted June 21, 2022 M11 with Ultron 28/2 APSH II at f/8 Dark cold weather here. ugh. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4457571'>More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted June 21, 2022 Share #184 Posted June 21, 2022 17 hours ago, lct said: May i ask how you compared? Just curious as at f/4 and on i can hardly tell a difference between my Leica copies. On M lenses at least, R lenses are another story. Yes. I put a milky white thin piece of plastic on the lens and took aperture series with both lenses in diffuse light. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomnia Posted June 21, 2022 Share #185 Posted June 21, 2022 240 s on M10-P, cropped and perspective corrected. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 15 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4457838'>More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted June 22, 2022 Share #186 Posted June 22, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4457995'>More sharing options...
28framelines Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share #187 Posted June 22, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 6/20/2022 at 12:46 AM, LarsHP said: We agree that there may be a good reason to think of the Ultron II as an alternative to the 28mm Elmarit-M Asph II as well because of how small the Voigtländer lens is. Even though the Ultron is an f/2 lens in the center, it vignettes in a manner that I would often not use it wide open at longer focus distances, but rather stop it down to f/2.4. From that point of view, it sits between the Summicron and Elmarit. For reference, I think it may be helpful to add that the Ultron II vignettes less at f/4 and onwards than the Summicron. So, I ended up selling my Ultron II for the Elmarit for this reason, and one other, and I want to ask you specifically Lars, as I know you sing high praises of the Ultron. The other reason I sold it was it was near impossible to mount the lens on my MP properly; the lens wouldn’t seat (click into place) without twisting very, very hard on the lens to the point that I was worried about the mount. I thought I was crazy, but had someone else try it as well at a camera store. I sent it back and received a new copy; same issue. So I simply gave up on the lens. Have you experienced this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted June 22, 2022 Share #188 Posted June 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, 28framelines said: So, I ended up selling my Ultron II for the Elmarit for this reason, and one other, and I want to ask you specifically Lars, as I know you sing high praises of the Ultron. The other reason I sold it was it was near impossible to mount the lens on my MP properly; the lens wouldn’t seat (click into place) without twisting very, very hard on the lens to the point that I was worried about the mount. I thought I was crazy, but had someone else try it as well at a camera store. I sent it back and received a new copy; same issue. So I simply gave up on the lens. Have you experienced this? No. Not with any lens from any manufacturer actually, but I had that issue with two different adapters. The first I contacted the manufacturer and got a replacement. The second was bought from China making a return expensive and slow, so I modified the adapter myself, since I found out that it was the springs that were overly arched, and by flattening the springs a bit, the fit was much smoother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted June 23, 2022 Share #189 Posted June 23, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4458685'>More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted June 23, 2022 Share #190 Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, hmzimelka said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It appears to be two different frames, but what do we see here? Are you trying to show us the degree of vignetting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted June 23, 2022 Share #191 Posted June 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, LarsHP said: It appears to be two different frames, but what do we see here? Are you trying to show us the degree of vignetting? Its marble from an abandoned marble quarry. The stone cut down the middle. The right half in shadow. The left in sun. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4458791'>More sharing options...
sergiomarried Posted June 25, 2022 Share #192 Posted June 25, 2022 Quick update for those that supported my decision around this thread: I finally ordered the Ultron and will share my personal conclusions once I can have a decent real life experience with it. Thanks a lot to the community, Sergio. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted June 25, 2022 Share #193 Posted June 25, 2022 9 hours ago, sergiomarried said: Quick update for those that supported my decision around this thread: I finally ordered the Ultron and will share my personal conclusions once I can have a decent real life experience with it. Thanks a lot to the community, Sergio. Hope its awesome! I'm loving mine Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4459751'>More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted June 30, 2022 Share #194 Posted June 30, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4462422'>More sharing options...
sergiomarried Posted July 1, 2022 Share #195 Posted July 1, 2022 Hi friends, quick update: I received the 28mm Ultron II yesterday. Gorgeous little lens, smooth well dampened focus and solid reliable aperture ring. Looks promising, need to put it under decent real life testing but this will ad versatility in my documentary and personal projects. Couple of test shots on M10M and M240 (yeah, still works!)... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4463212'>More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted July 1, 2022 Share #196 Posted July 1, 2022 Some from this afternoon... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4463227'>More sharing options...
Dennis Posted July 3, 2022 Share #197 Posted July 3, 2022 On 7/1/2022 at 10:37 AM, sergiomarried said: Hi friends, quick update: I received the 28mm Ultron II yesterday. Gorgeous little lens, smooth well dampened focus and solid reliable aperture ring. Looks promising, need to put it under decent real life testing but this will ad versatility in my documentary and personal projects. Couple of test shots on M10M and M240 (yeah, still works!)... Your cameras may say the lens is fantastic. But let's see what your beloved Nokton says 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergiomarried Posted July 4, 2022 Share #198 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) On 7/3/2022 at 6:37 AM, Dennis said: Your cameras may say the lens is fantastic. But let's see what your beloved Nokton says Nokton says “I miss you, why?” 😅damn… This 28mm is a great lens (too sharp and contrasty perhaps!) but I’ve been using 35mm as my daily/go-to for years… I’ll play a bit more with 28mm and will be a valuable addition for indoor/tight scenes but 35mm will always be my natural view of the world and how I love documenting… Edited July 4, 2022 by sergiomarried 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted July 5, 2022 Share #199 Posted July 5, 2022 While I also see the world a little more in 35mm, the 28 Ultron is so nice that I'll make it work over the 35 Ultron. No buyers remorse on this one... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 17 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321687-voigtlander-28mm-ultron-asph-type-ii/?do=findComment&comment=4465389'>More sharing options...
Leica001 Posted July 5, 2022 Share #200 Posted July 5, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 8:36 AM, 28framelines said: So, I ended up selling my Ultron II for the Elmarit for this reason, and one other, and I want to ask you specifically Lars, as I know you sing high praises of the Ultron. The other reason I sold it was it was near impossible to mount the lens on my MP properly; the lens wouldn’t seat (click into place) without twisting very, very hard on the lens to the point that I was worried about the mount. I thought I was crazy, but had someone else try it as well at a camera store. I sent it back and received a new copy; same issue. So I simply gave up on the lens. Have you experienced this? I have an MP and got the lens two weeks ago and have had no issues whatsoever. The lens is stunning on film and looks great on the MP BP also. Like many have said before the only thing I'd change is the chrome on the front of the lens. I'd bet sales would jump if they got rid of the chrome on all their lenses! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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