New M10-P Reporter

[Simon W]

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I have been using an M8 with a Tri-Elmar 28-35-50 f4.0 (later 49mm version) and Summarit f2.5 90mm for the last 13 years but decided it was time to update to a new M10 this year. I joined the forum to help solve my dilemma between an M10-P (ideally Reporter version - as I loved the colour) and M10-R. After trawling the forum for views on the M10-P / M10-R debate I was about to post for some advice on which body but was offered one of the last new M10-P Reporter bodies and just went for it - reasoning that I probably don't need or want 40mp files for general leisure photography, the M10-P would be more than adequate and that the looks of the limited edition were more important to me than the marginally better sensor.

I would be interested to hear from anyone using an M10-P with a Tri-Elmar 28-35-50 on whether a prime lens would show any discernable difference (print to max A3 size). I Plan on using the Tri-Elmar for a year before deciding which prime lens length to get 28/35/50 but might keep the Tri-Elmar in addition as I have just read "never sell a discontinued lens".

I am happy with my decision to sacrifice a bit of resolution for looks / rarity of the Reporter but interested on views of whether the Tri- Elmar is up to the new body or whether a prime lens will make a big difference. Hope to get another 15 years service out of the Reporter.

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[LeicaS2]

To go from an M8 with cropped 10 meg sensor to a M10P reporter is a wonderful jump.

if you were used to 10 meg, there would be no need to go to the 40+ resolution of the R.

I too chose the Reporter and agree you will enjoy it for a long long time. When I had an M8 I had the WATE but not the MATE. With a full frame camera you will enjoy the extra width you will now have at true 28mm. and the with cropping you can get the framing you were used to at 50mm. And with higher ISO you will not find yourself limited by the slower lens. I would suggest you wait with the MATE to see which focal length you find yourself using before you go for a prime. Yes, I believe any modern prime will give you a better picture, but certainly a more compact lens. Will you notice it without looking at A3 prints side by side? Maybe not. I have heard some rumors that Leica will someday reintroduce the Tri-Elmar and it will go for three times the going rate for the MATE. Net, don’t sell any Leica lens. Which I have regretted every time I did.

Jack
 

 

[lct]

Very nice body congrats and welcome to the forum . The Tri-Elmar 28-35-50/4 aka "MATE" is a very sharp lens whose limits are its f/4 aperture and 1m MFD. It is also a lens rather fragile due to its complexity. Its only significant flaw is flare at 50mm which is easy to avoid in LV/EVF mode, less so in RF mode somewhat expectedly. If you happen to use it in LV/EVF mode it has a hidden macro (rather proxy) position at about 40mm focal length allowing to reduce its MFD to about 40cm.

[Simon W]

Thanks for the comments, I am definitely going to use the Tri-Elmar for a while to help decide on the focal length for a prime lens. Using the MATE full frame is a big change to on the M8. On the M8 I would say I used it most at 35 mm which is actually closer to 50mm full frame. On the M10 I find myself still using it at 35mm which is now actually 35mm! I think the issue is in both cameras the 35mm frame is widest  that is easy to see in the viewfinder and that might have been influencing the focal length choice which is easy to change on the MATE. Maybe I actually tend towards 50mm but thought I tended towards 35mm on the M8 as that what the lens was switched to.

So I think I will use the M8 for a year to see what I prefer and use most on the M10, my initial thought is the APO Summicron 35mm as I can always crop to 50 mm and like the inbuilt macro ability.

I will keep the MATE whatever as it is really flexible and has tripled in value already over 13 years. I had it serviced and 6 bit coded when I got it it and has been flawless since.

I should have titled the post M10-P Reporter with Tri-Elmar as the post was more about lens choice - can you re- title a post? Beginners mistake on post title!
 

Thanks

[lanetomlane]

I've used the 28-35-50 Tri-Elmar since around 2000 and have been happy. Although saying that I'm now on my third one. The first one I bought new (Version 1) but after about 5 years it stopped picking up the correct frame lines. Leica Germany repaired it but the same problem re-occured a couple of years later and so I traded it in. (Advising David Stepthens/Leica Manchester of the problem.) I really missed the lens and so when Leica Manchester got a secondhand one in I bought it. However, yet again I had the same problem. From the forum I understand that the Version 2 was better mechanically and so when one became available last year I bought it and have been happy ever since. For travel I find it perfect under daylight conditions but I always add a fast 50mm prime for low light shots.

I'm sure you'll really enjoy the M10-P and welcome to the forum.

Regards, Tom

https://photographybytomlane.com

[martinot]

22 hours ago, Simon W said:

I have been using an M8 with a Tri-Elmar 28-35-50 f4.0 (later 49mm version) and Summarit f2.5 90mm for the last 13 years but decided it was time to update to a new M10 this year. I joined the forum to help solve my dilemma between an M10-P (ideally Reporter version - as I loved the colour) and M10-R. After trawling the forum for views on the M10-P / M10-R debate I was about to post for some advice on which body but was offered one of the last new M10-P Reporter bodies and just went for it - reasoning that I probably don't need or want 40mp files for general leisure photography, the M10-P would be more than adequate and that the looks of the limited edition were more important to me than the marginally better sensor.

I would be interested to hear from anyone using an M10-P with a Tri-Elmar 28-35-50 on whether a prime lens would show any discernable difference (print to max A3 size). I Plan on using the Tri-Elmar for a year before deciding which prime lens length to get 28/35/50 but might keep the Tri-Elmar in addition as I have just read "never sell a discontinued lens".

I am happy with my decision to sacrifice a bit of resolution for looks / rarity of the Reporter but interested on views of whether the Tri- Elmar is up to the new body or whether a prime lens will make a big difference. Hope to get another 15 years service out of the Reporter.

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Congrats!

Great looking camera!

 

[Photoworks]

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I had the M10-P for about 2 years and replace it with M10-R. I got the R because I was tired to underexpose to save the highlights, I can expose normal now.

The reported edition is good looking choice .

the Tripod-Elmar is a good lens, but sometime heavy to carry. 

If you going for the leica look, you probably should consider a Summilux or Summicron and shoot wide open. 35 and 50 are my favorite on this camera, I have added a 21 SEM that works well too.

Cheers.

[Raid Amin]

I have been mostly  using a regular M10 and as a back-up my M9. The M8 is seeing less use now. I have not yet had a WATE or MATE. Just lenses that I happen to own.

[Simon W]

Thanks for all the advice, I will take my time deciding on which focal length - the Tri-Elmar will make it easy to try all 3 focal lengths on a full frame camera, once I have decided on a focal length there seems to be a choice of 3 lenses for each focal length!

[martinot]

38 minutes ago, Simon W said:

Thanks for all the advice, I will take my time deciding on which focal length - the Tri-Elmar will make it easy to try all 3 focal lengths on a full frame camera, once I have decided on a focal length there seems to be a choice of 3 lenses for each focal length!

Get them all!

Seriously, I have 3-4 Leica+Zeiss lenses for 35 mm and respectively 50 mm. You can never get too many 35 and 50! 

[CosmoM3]

Congrats on the Reporter. They’re impossible to find now and I’m happy I was able to snag a new one online.

[ejk64]

hello simon ,

according to my dealer in paris, leica is due to present in june 2021 a limited edition summicron-m28asph for the m10-p reporter.
he told me about 4500 euros ...

[martinot]

42 minutes ago, ejk64 said:

hello simon ,

according to my dealer in paris, leica is due to present in june 2021 a limited edition summicron-m28asph for the m10-p reporter.
he told me about 4500 euros ...

Interesting news!

Do we have any information about have it will differ in design from the normal 28 cron?

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by martinot

[farnz]

On 5/27/2021 at 10:34 AM, martinot said:

Interesting news!

Do we have any information about have it will differ in design from the normal 28 cron?

 

The lens elements are supposed to be made from premium-grade Kevlar to enhance its robustness.

Pete.

I might have made that up.

[Simon W]

Will have a look at the Reporter 28mm Summicron when it is out but more likely to go for. 35mm or 50mm as my standard lens. Currently thinking a 35 mm Apo Summicron as the close focus would be useful. On the Reporter I think a black lens looks best but will see what the Reporter lens looks like when it is out.

[Erikvw]