Casey Jefferson Posted May 4 Share #41 Posted May 4 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, pmendelson said: Update: I was ready to get the Summicron when I found a used Summilux at a price I couldn’t refuse 😁 If you can find a lux with a great price, chances is that you can always sell without lost or make some profit! Congratulations! Looking forward to your pictures soon! setuporg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Max EPR Posted May 4 Share #42 Posted May 4 I'm keeping the Q2 vs a 28mm M for my M10. I have a 35M and 50M Summicron, plus a SL2 with 50,90, 24-90, TL55/135 and Sigma 100-200. I can use the Q2 when appropriate and it's easy for my wife to use. I'm still figuring out if I want to keep the M10. I love everything about the M10 except the hit and miss of perfectly focused or exposed photos. I feel live view is cheating with this camera, but I love shooting with the camera. I mean, why have a rangefinder camera and have to use live view to focus? The SL2 is my favorite. With all the features of the SL2 combined with the awesome primes and Varios I constantly get my best photos. Cobram and setuporg 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rtai Posted May 5 Share #43 Posted May 5 The 28mm Summilux is the best lens I have ever owned and I have used plenty. However whether it is right for you depends on how you shoot. It is a large lens and unless you shoot it at max aperture often maybe you don’t absolutely need it. I shoot with the Q2 Monochrom now and for street I tend to set it to f4 to f8. If I had to shoot with the M10M the same way I likely would zone focus at f8 so the 28mm Summicron would be my choice or even the Summaron. ibramr and Steven 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SJH Posted May 5 Share #44 Posted May 5 3 hours ago, rtai said: The 28mm Summilux is the best lens I have ever owned and I have used plenty. However whether it is right for you depends on how you shoot. It is a large lens and unless you shoot it at max aperture often maybe you don’t absolutely need it. I shoot with the Q2 Monochrom now and for street I tend to set it to f4 to f8. If I had to shoot with the M10M the same way I likely would zone focus at f8 so the 28mm Summicron would be my choice or even the Summaron. Funny enough I use my 28mm Summaron just like a ‘point and shoot’ - I set it to f8 on either my M10M or M10R and off you go. The Summilux is for a more ‘deliberate approach but I really like what these two lenses offer i.e. the most compact 28mm, with a vintage feel, for spontaneous street shooting etc and then the 1.4 for that unique cinematic look that I couldn’t get with the Q2. My GRIII just goes with me when I want to be ultra light and have AF & Snap focus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casey Jefferson Posted May 5 Share #45 Posted May 5 By the way is there some kind of correlation between the 28lux and M bodies? I consistently wowed by the 28lux with M10 and particularly M10P (for God knows reason since they have same sensor). Less so with M240 and haven't yet seen convincing shots from M9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Posted May 5 Share #46 Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, Casey Jefferson said: By the way is there some kind of correlation between the 28lux and M bodies? I consistently wowed by the 28lux with M10 and particularly M10P (for God knows reason since they have same sensor). Less so with M240 and haven't yet seen convincing shots from M9. I find that where it excels the most is on my SL2S. It's an incredible pair. never seen anything like it. Cobram, anickpick and Casey Jefferson 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMF Posted May 6 Share #47 Posted May 6 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) The 28lux with an M10* is really a special combintaion and has a unique cinematic unlike any other Leica modern lens. "Magic" yeah that's how I'd describe it as it nearly always creates something better than I anticipate; it's the one lens that renders photos in a way that you just can't wait to load it up in Lightroom and gauk at what it can do. I use this lens regularly on my M10P and M10M. OK.. maybe I'm putting too much praise on a lens but its a good one for sure. If you can stomach the size and its hefty price, it's a lens you should consider if you like the 28 FOV. Edited May 6 by RMF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
setuporg Posted May 6 Share #48 Posted May 6 The 28 Lux does wonders on the M10M. Art photos all around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rtai Posted May 6 Share #49 Posted May 6 I initially bought the 28mm Summilux because rather than spending money on a new FF Leica I would spend it on a fast lens so to continue using the M8. The 1.4 max aperture would mean I can use the M8.2 at base iso and it effectively became a 35mm my preferred focal length. The 28mm Summilux is the best lens I have ever used but I wouldn’t have bought it just because of that reputation likewise I wouldn’t buy the 135/3.4 Apo just because some say is the best M lens ever if that focal length doesn’t work for me. But lately thanks to the Q2M I am totally into 28mm for street photography so am glad I have the Summilux. I might even get the Summaron since I tend to stop down to f8 for that anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pmendelson Posted May 6 Author Share #50 Posted May 6 The 28mm Summilux should arrive tomorrow - it will be the default lens on my M10R. I have always liked the Summaron too - love the small size, moody look to the files and silver color on a chrome M. Perhaps I will pick one up as well one day, especially for street shooting. rtai 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zupfgeiger Posted May 10 Share #51 Posted May 10 I just bought a new 28mm Lux and traded my 28mm Elmarit for it. Honestly my decision finally based on the gorgeous pics shot with the 28mm lux and posted here abundantly. Together with my 50mm apo it will be a nice combo for sure. Casey Jefferson, ibramr and Cobram 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boostisbest Posted May 10 Share #52 Posted May 10 So funny because after using a 28 summicron almost every day for 5 yrs... I finally bought a 28 lux. After using it for a month, I just can't get used to it, so I am selling. CosmoM3, Cobram and Casey Jefferson 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jplomley Posted May 10 Share #53 Posted May 10 On 5/10/2021 at 11:54 PM, boostisbest said: So funny because after using a 28 summicron almost every day for 5 yrs... I finally bought a 28 lux. After using it for a month, I just can't get used to it, so I am selling. Same boat. Really tried to like the Lux, but the weight, color fringing, high contrast, soft corners even stopped down, obstruction of the VF and, on my copy, focus shift at f/2.8 and 4.0, I gave up. Just not worth the coin. The Summicron v2 wins hands down in all aspects except being able to shoot at f/1.4. Plenty of resolution on my M10-R and M10M, a wonderful OOF rendering, the perfect level of contrast, sharp corners at f/2.8 onwards and just no surprises. A Leica classic and one of their very best and predictable performers. Casey Jefferson, insomnia, Cobram and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OR120 Posted May 18 Share #54 Posted May 18 Is there a difference - shooting 28 Lux at F/2 and 28 Summicron ASHP VII at F/2? Both shot at F2? Pictures look the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casey Jefferson Posted May 19 Share #55 Posted May 19 13 hours ago, OR120 said: Is there a difference - shooting 28 Lux at F/2 and 28 Summicron ASHP VII at F/2? Both shot at F2? Pictures look the same? I started a same thread recently, didn't get much responses 😳 OR120 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobram Posted May 19 Share #56 Posted May 19 On 5/10/2021 at 10:54 PM, boostisbest said: So funny because after using a 28 summicron almost every day for 5 yrs... I finally bought a 28 lux. After using it for a month, I just can't get used to it, so I am selling. Yes, Cron is really nice. I own v1 and think this is one of the best current "bargains" within Leica used market... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jplomley Posted May 19 Share #57 Posted May 19 18 hours ago, OR120 said: Is there a difference - shooting 28 Lux at F/2 and 28 Summicron ASHP VII at F/2? Both shot at F2? Pictures look the same? Corners will be sharper on the SC and the OOF will be smoother (Lux has busier bokeh). Center resolution will be similar. You may find your SC image better composed as well since you are not loosing a good portion of the VF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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