f4nest Posted April 2, 2021 Share #61 Posted April 2, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318767-wheres-all-the-fanfare-over-the-28-apo-sc/?do=findComment&comment=4172568'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Hi f4nest, Take a look here Wheres all the Fanfare over the 28 APO SC?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
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jrp Posted April 2, 2021 Share #63 Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) National Covid Memorial Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Seems v sharp, with steep fall-off, and they've definitely worked on the bokeh. Edited April 2, 2021 by jrp BBCode links no longer seem to work 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Seems v sharp, with steep fall-off, and they've definitely worked on the bokeh. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318767-wheres-all-the-fanfare-over-the-28-apo-sc/?do=findComment&comment=4172879'>More sharing options...
jrp Posted April 2, 2021 Share #64 Posted April 2, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Straight into the sun. No sign of flare or fringing. Wide open. HDR. 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Straight into the sun. No sign of flare or fringing. Wide open. HDR. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318767-wheres-all-the-fanfare-over-the-28-apo-sc/?do=findComment&comment=4172888'>More sharing options...
jrp Posted April 2, 2021 Share #65 Posted April 2, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What's sharp is sharp, and what isn't, isnt. f2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What's sharp is sharp, and what isn't, isnt. f2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318767-wheres-all-the-fanfare-over-the-28-apo-sc/?do=findComment&comment=4172898'>More sharing options...
beewee Posted April 2, 2021 Share #66 Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) @jrp thanks for sharing these photos. The close up bokeh shots and the backlit shot of the Parliament building helps to set this lens apart from other options. The 28mm APO has been on my mind after its recent release but the 24mm is still my preferred focal length. Seeing that most of my 24mm usage is stopped down to f/5.6-8 and used with hyper focal focusing for landscape, I’m starting to think that the wide angle APO primes really need to be shot wide open at closer subject distances to show their unique look. Otherwise, something like the Sigma 24mm f/3.5 can offer the sharp corner-to-corner image when stopped down to f/5.6 at about 1/10th the cost and 1/3rd the weight of the APO SL primes. I do like how the 28mm APO is a bit wider than the 35mm as I’m more of a wide angle shooter but it also makes it that much harder for the 28 APO to show off the unique look of the APO SL line, which to me, is characterized by the biting sharpness in the focal plane, smooth bokeh fall-off and lower contrast background. I do really like this rendering but I feel it can also be over used very easily and quickly. In the absence of the Sigma 24mm f/3.5, it would make sense for me to go for a 35 APO SL + 24 APO SL combo but the 24mm f/3.5 makes me reconsider whether it makes more sense to go with a 35 APO SL + Sigma 24mm f/3.5 prime, or 35 APO SL + 24 APO SL. Another option would be 28 APO SL + 21 APO SL prime, or maybe 35 APO SL + 21 APO SL. Beyond the high price of entry, weight is a big consideration for me so the added 500g between a hypothetical 24 APO SL and the Sigma 24/3.5 would make me hesitate to take the 24 APO SL over the Sigma even if I owned both. As for the 35mm side of things, I feel the 35 APO SL would get used more in a manner in which it would outshine the Sigma 35mm f/2 i-series prime. Edited April 2, 2021 by beewee 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted April 2, 2021 Share #67 Posted April 2, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well it's good to have choices. And there will be Panasonic f1.8 primes for the L-mount "shortly". The SL Summicron probably has narrower depth of field even at f5.6, particularly close up, so that may not suit your style. It probably has slightly cleaner aberrations than the competitors and each lens will provide a different "look". Part of the reason for posting these picks is to help comparison. A more versatile lens if you shoot wide is the 16-35mm, or Sigma / Panasonic equivalents. Heavy, but lighter that 2-3 Summicrons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted April 2, 2021 Share #68 Posted April 2, 2021 Yeah, currently for L-mount lenses, I have the Sigma 24 f/3.5 and the Sigma 14-24. I did notice something funny in the Leica spec sheet: https://en.leica-camera.com/content/download/201381/5348157/version/12/file/Tech_Data_APO-Summicron-SL_28_EN.pdf The lens cutaway drawing shows an extra element (highlighted in yellow) as compared to the diagram on the right., Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318767-wheres-all-the-fanfare-over-the-28-apo-sc/?do=findComment&comment=4173121'>More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 3, 2021 Share #69 Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) Yes. Noted at the time of announcement and Leica has been told. Don't hold your breath to see it corrected. There is a similar error in the SL 16-35 literature. I guess (a) different people draw these illustrations at different times, and (b) the engineers don't care and the marketeers won't spend the money to redo any of this or don't even recognize the slight embarassment it might cause. The drawing at right has the correct number of elements so I suppose it is correct. I would love to hear about the evolution of a complex design like these, to see where the extra elements enter the picture. Edited April 3, 2021 by scott kirkpatrick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoarFM Posted April 3, 2021 Share #70 Posted April 3, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 3:10 PM, f4nest said: testing my new SC-SL-28 with the help of my little friend Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Cool dog. Lens appears to be nice too...🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted April 3, 2021 Share #71 Posted April 3, 2021 8 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said: The drawing at right has the correct number of elements so I suppose it is correct. I would love to hear about the evolution of a complex design like these, to see where the extra elements enter the picture. Yeah, the drawing on the right also corresponds to one of Peter Karbe’s presentation slides showing the optics of all 7 APO Summicron SL primes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted April 3, 2021 Share #72 Posted April 3, 2021 I also just noticed that, although the 28 APO and 35 APO share the same hood and the length of the lens barrels are the same, the hood attachment for the 28 APO is placed a bit further towards the rear in order to ensure the hood does not vignette on the 28 APO. With the hood on, it makes the 28 APO appear a little shorter than the 35 APO. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted April 4, 2021 Share #73 Posted April 4, 2021 Thanks Beewee. That‘s a cool an useful information. I was already wondering if they have compromised the function in favour of using one lens hood for both lenses. But no, just a clever design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoreserve Posted April 4, 2021 Share #74 Posted April 4, 2021 Let us now praise LEICA for offering us such stellar lenses. By now I own 4 of them (SL Apo's 28-35-50-90) and couldn't be happier. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted April 4, 2021 Share #75 Posted April 4, 2021 vor 6 Stunden schrieb panoreserve: Let us now praise LEICA for offering us such stellar lenses. By now I own 4 of them (SL Apo's 28-35-50-90) and couldn't be happier. Oh yes, you could! You are still missing the 75 😃 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 4, 2021 Share #76 Posted April 4, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 11:55 PM, Sjz said: We are all different, I have always liked a 50 and a 28, 35 for me is neither. having said that I do have the 35, although if the 28 was out a year ago then I would have that instead of the 35. Exactly the same as me, but I think we’re a minority so I’m not surprised that the stellar 35 got so much more coverage. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted April 5, 2021 Share #77 Posted April 5, 2021 vor 10 Stunden schrieb MarkP: Exactly the same as me, but I think we’re a minority so I’m not surprised that the stellar 35 got so much more coverage. I think you two are perfectly right and wrong That the 35mm is neither a 28 or 50 makes it such a versatile and popular single lens solution But I get your point, and I am constantly fighting with myself what the best combos are, which is good for Leica, as I continue to add lenses. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 5, 2021 Share #78 Posted April 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Daniel C.1975 said: I think you two are perfectly right and wrong That the 35mm is neither a 28 or 50 makes it such a versatile and popular single lens solution But I get your point, and I am constantly fighting with myself what the best combos are, which is good for Leica, as I continue to add lenses. Yes, you’re also also perfectly right and wrong 😁 That’s exactly why I have 35 mm lenses - because sometimes it’s the right focal length for the job, and when I only want one lens on my M cameras it’s often a 35. But it always seems too long or too short 😢. My favourite film camera of all time, that I still use regularly, is a Contax T3 with that glorious 2.8/35 mm *T Zeiss lens. mark 🙂 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4nest Posted April 5, 2021 Share #79 Posted April 5, 2021 I have the the SL-35 but enjoy the advantages of the wider angle of SL28 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318767-wheres-all-the-fanfare-over-the-28-apo-sc/?do=findComment&comment=4174764'>More sharing options...
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