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Leica M6. Leica 50mm f1.2 Noctilux lens.  Tri-X rated at 800, developed 7:45 in XTOL stock with added Rodinal 1:100. 20 degrees Celsius. 

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It is just only the Nokton1.2/50. It can also be used to produce beautifully blurred images. 😉

 

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On 3/19/2021 at 4:05 PM, insideline said:

Sid, that is very kind of you to say. I do feel very fortunate to have my Dad's original 1.2 (thanks Dad for never selling it) to use and now compare with Leica's new 1.2 remake, and so far I feel Leica did a wonderful job in providing us with a good feel for the original version when shot wide open at 1.2, yet give us a more useful lens for everyday use from F2 on up. I honestly wish Leica had done some comparisons like this for their own launch so all of us could have better understood the dual character of the lens, but I think with enough members now receiving the lens the word will get out. 

This is exactly the kind of information I wanted to know about, and that is one reason I asked Milan Swolfs (he owns the original version as well) to write about this in Viewfinder. I also talked about this with him on the phone. Viewfinder 53-4 with coverage of the Noctilux 50/1.2 will be on press this week. I have Jono's review and Milan's comparing the old and new versions. Bottom line is Milan feels the two versions are identical if you are comparing the new one to a good original. He notes a difference in the tone of the coating, the original being more yellow/orange and the new being more blue. I believe he said the original renders slightly warmer. Also keep in mind there was a lot of variance in the original lenses, plus over 50 years age between old and new. Current Leica QC should make for more consistency with the new version of the lens.

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When I first got the Noctilux 1.2, I shot almost entirely in black and white, and posted a number of those images here.  Recently I have taken it out to shoot in color on the M10-R, and I have to say, I am blown away by the color rendition. This is really a magical lens. Yes, soft. But magical in its treatment of color.

 

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Here's the first of three from tonight, where the cherry blossoms have come out in Washington, D.C.

 

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Second one -- all shot with an ND filter on.

 

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25 minutes ago, johnbuckley said:

Again, soft, but who cares? Sharpness is so bourgeois, as HC-B is reputed to have said.(And who am I fooling?I can't wait to get me hands on the 35 APO...)

 

 

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John,

Very kind of you to continue to post photographs you have taken with the new 50 1.2. I am not as brave as you to upload files but really have enjoyed my copy.

You keep saying "soft" as a preface for these photos you have uploaded yet they look plenty sharp here, along with a really wonderful out of focus rendering that distinguishes this lens from the F1 Noctilux and all of the 50 1.4 variations. Maybe this is a lesson for us all to stay away from pixel peeping and instead look at the overall rendering. Very, very nice thank you, and please keep them coming in both B&W and color!

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vor 7 Stunden schrieb johnbuckley:

Again, soft, but who cares? Sharpness is so bourgeois, as HC-B is reputed to have said.(And who am I fooling?I can't wait to get me hands on the 35 APO...)

 

 

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Beautiful images! Are they all taken at f/1.2 ?

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12 hours ago, duoenboge said:

It is just only the Nokton1.2/50. It can also be used to produce beautifully blurred images. 😉

 

Yes, it’s a fine lens.
Lots of lenses can produce this type of image. One of my favourites is the 50cm Summitar f2. Produces unreal bokeh. 
I guess the f1.2 Noctilux is like driving a classic car. Other cars go as fast (or as slow) but they are not quite the same. It’s quite simple really. 

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10 hours ago, insideline said:

John,

Very kind of you to continue to post photographs you have taken with the new 50 1.2. I am not as brave as you to upload files but really have enjoyed my copy.

You keep saying "soft" as a preface for these photos you have uploaded yet they look plenty sharp here, along with a really wonderful out of focus rendering that distinguishes this lens from the F1 Noctilux and all of the 50 1.4 variations. Maybe this is a lesson for us all to stay away from pixel peeping and instead look at the overall rendering. Very, very nice thank you, and please keep them coming in both B&W and color!

Thank you so much! I think the photos coming from the new Noctilux's near opposite -- the new 35mm APO -- have me emphasizing soft. But honestly, if these are soft, it is as much to do with how hard this (and any Noctilux) is to focus in the wild. I think of the new Noctilux as very much a lens you can take to the street, because it is light and comparatively small. But there's no question you have to absolutely nail the focus in order to get the best images and that's hard to do. Each of the photos taken last night at the cherry blossoms had me using the Visoflex -- I've gotten pretty good at using it quickly in the wild. The difficult thing with using it is that faces and hair don't trigger the focus peaking. So you kind of have to be approximate in your focus -- and that, as much as anything, leads me to say "soft." 

With black and white images, I don't care so much as I like a sort of muddy, film-like image. With color it matters more. But any demerits coming from either my missing the focus or the camera's actual softness in focus is wiped away by just how gorgeous the color rendering is (at least to me.)

This is a beguiling lens. Not, perhaps, for everyday or universal work, but as with last night, where I've shot the cherry blossoms for 20 years with any number of crisp, sharp Leica lenses, if you go out looking for something lovely and different, the Noctilux 1.2 will deliver it.

I intend, in the weeks ahead, to do a double review of the new Nocti and the new APO. I am trading in several lenses I don't really use to finance a smaller, but more usable set of lenses. I think these two lenses tell different stories about Leica, both of them fascinating -- for a price, they simultaneously are trying to deliver romance and perfection.

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f/1.2, M10-P

Just arrived late this afternoon so I've barely had time to work with it, but I was able to get in a short walk around the neighborhood for a few shots.

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f/1.2, M10-P

My neighbor's '56 Pontiac Chieftain is always a good photo subject.

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I shot this primarily to gauge sharpness wide open at close range. I focused on center of the grill. 

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23 hours ago, johnbuckley said:

I am trading in several lenses I don't really use to finance a smaller, but more usable set of lenses. I think these two lenses tell different stories about Leica, both of them fascinating -- for a price, they simultaneously are trying to deliver romance and perfection.

This is exactly what I've been doing with the goal of ending up with just three or four lenses. The 50mm focal length has long been my preference and it's likely this f/1.2 will become my most used day-to-day lens. 

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