farnz Posted October 5, 2021 Share #481 Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, IkarusJohn said: Reasonable price, no margin … No, price-gouging isn't Ivor's thing I'm happy to report. (Well in my experience anyway.) Pete. Edited October 5, 2021 by farnz 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 5, 2021 Posted October 5, 2021 Hi farnz, Take a look here Review: The New Leica APO-Summicron-M 35mm F2 ASPH.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Malcolm Kays Posted October 8, 2021 Share #482 Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 10:54 PM, NigelG said: For those interested there’s already a pre-owned copy available at Red Dot in London... (I have no link to Ivor’s store but I have bought and sold a huge amount of stuff with them) Not any more. Already being used on an M10M. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpeeples Posted October 15, 2021 Share #483 Posted October 15, 2021 I popped the 35 APO onto my M6 and the rangefinder is not working with it at all. Other lenses are fine, and the 35APO on my newer M is good. Anyone see the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpeeples Posted October 15, 2021 Share #484 Posted October 15, 2021 Thats odd... just checked again... the rangefinder on the M6, does not line up at all with the 35 APO... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 15, 2021 Share #485 Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, lpeeples said: Thats odd... just checked again... the rangefinder on the M6, does not line up at all with the 35 APO... As mentioned pages back in this thread somewhere - the 35 APO doesn't use a full-circle focus cam to connect to the camera, just a push-rod driven by a cam deep inside the lens. (A technique also used on some M teles 75/90/135 in the past.) So yes, it may miss connecting to some cameras' roller-levers, if the camera lever is higher or lower than normal, or the lens is over/under-mounted (i.e. with the lens push-rod not precisely top-dead-center). And, of course, since the APO-35 focuses all the way down to 0.3m, it always disconnects from the RF between 0.7 and 0.3m (close-focus range), with any M body. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 15, 2021 Share #486 Posted October 15, 2021 I just checked on the first of my collection of film M's which came to hand an M3 and an M7 and the 35 APO worked fine on both of those. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted October 31, 2021 Share #487 Posted October 31, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) It works (down to 0.7m) 😎 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318553-review-the-new-leica-apo-summicron-m-35mm-f2-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4303466'>More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 31, 2021 Share #488 Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, RF’sDelight said: It works (down to 0.7m) 😎 Thanks for posting. Some might view it as heresy but I think that, thanks to its angular sunshade, the 35/2 APO-Summicron-M asph goes very nicely with the M5. 🙂 Pete. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share #489 Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, RF’sDelight said: It works (down to 0.7m) 😎 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Wow! that looks lovely! I guess it works to 0.3 if you measure the distance! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted October 31, 2021 Share #490 Posted October 31, 2021 @farnz Doesn't it!? 😊 @Steven I bet you need one now. 😁 @jonoslack I would guess so too. Thanks! Since this is a review thread I reviewed this combination a little more. Here are two additional pictures this time no iPhone but TL2. And I must add that I like the M5 very much. Of course its outer appearance is pretty quirky compared to all other Ms but this rangefinder is a joy to use. The ergonomics are very well executed, especially the exposure time wheel. And as you all probably know apart from the later M6 you can see your exposure time in the viewfinder. How cool is that? Bonne dimanche everyone! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318553-review-the-new-leica-apo-summicron-m-35mm-f2-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4303609'>More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share #491 Posted October 31, 2021 5 hours ago, RF’sDelight said: @farnz Doesn't it!? 😊 @Steven I bet you need one now. 😁 @jonoslack I would guess so too. Thanks! Since this is a review thread I reviewed this combination a little more. Here are two additional pictures this time no iPhone but TL2. And I must add that I like the M5 very much. Of course its outer appearance is pretty quirky compared to all other Ms but this rangefinder is a joy to use. The ergonomics are very well executed, especially the exposure time wheel. And as you all probably know apart from the later M6 you can see your exposure time in the viewfinder. How cool is that? Bonne dimanche everyone! oops! I seem to have just bought an M5 on ebay - not as nice as yours, but quite good and pretty cheap as well! I'll report back (and you can refund me if I don't like it?) 😂 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share #492 Posted October 31, 2021 7 hours ago, Steven said: +1. I need an M5 now. I just bought one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted October 31, 2021 Share #493 Posted October 31, 2021 vor 2 Stunden schrieb jonoslack: oops! I seem to have just bought an M5 on ebay - not as nice as yours, but quite good and pretty cheap as well! I'll report back (and you can refund me if I don't like it?) 😂 Fingers crossed you like it otherwise perhaps Steven will buy it. 😜 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 31, 2021 Share #494 Posted October 31, 2021 Some people choose the M5 as their favorite M… Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 31, 2021 Share #495 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, jonoslack said: I just bought one! Jono, I hope your meter is working properly. The first two M5's I looked at had dead meters and as far as I know, nobody can now repair these. There is a good new device to replace the unobtainable PX625 mercury cells. The M5 has no voltage regulator so needs a steady 1.35 Volts for accurate metering. Using the expensive Wein Zinc-Air cells is a pain and pricey as they run down even when not in use (they always seem to have gone flat when you come to use the camera), so I have found an adapter which takes the very much cheaper PR44 zinc-air hearing aid button cells. These seem to last longer than the larger Wein 625 cells and are a fraction of the price. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173228970297?hash=item2855405139:g:yGIAAOSwHU9eIPrD The alternative is to use a Small Battery Company MR-9 voltage regulated adapter which takes either SR43 or 44 silver oxide cells. However I have found these only seem to last about 5 to 7 years before the forward biased Schottky diode they use as a regulator dies or becomes erratic. At £29 each this gets a bit pricey for film cameras I only use infrequently (CL, SL2 & M5). Wilson Edited October 31, 2021 by wlaidlaw 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 31, 2021 Share #496 Posted October 31, 2021 In the video I linked, his M5 meter was broken, but didn’t matter to him, relying on sunny 16 and experience. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 1, 2021 Share #497 Posted November 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Jeff S said: In the video I linked, his M5 meter was broken, but didn’t matter to him, relying on sunny 16 and experience. Jeff The metering is really the USP of the M5, otherwise you might as well get the smaller, lighter and IMHO prettier M4-P, which unlike the M5, can also take a Motor-M or as in my case, the steam punk M4-2 winder. Wilson 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share #498 Posted November 1, 2021 10 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: Jono, I hope your meter is working properly. The first two M5's I looked at had dead meters and as far as I know, nobody can now repair these. There is a good new device to replace the unobtainable PX625 mercury cells. The M5 has no voltage regulator so needs a steady 1.35 Volts for accurate metering. Using the expensive Wein Zinc-Air cells is a pain and pricey as they run down even when not in use (they always seem to have gone flat when you come to use the camera), so I have found an adapter which takes the very much cheaper PR44 zinc-air hearing aid button cells. These seem to last longer than the larger Wein 625 cells and are a fraction of the price. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173228970297?hash=item2855405139:g:yGIAAOSwHU9eIPrD The alternative is to use a Small Battery Company MR-9 voltage regulated adapter which takes either SR43 or 44 silver oxide cells. However I have found these only seem to last about 5 to 7 years before the forward biased Schottky diode they use as a regulator dies or becomes erratic. At £29 each this gets a bit pricey for film cameras I only use infrequently (CL, SL2 & M5). Wilson Thank you Wilson The guy who's selling it assures me that the meter is working properly and has a new battery . . . . and the metering is correct. He's just done a degree in photography, so he probably has been using it successfully 🤞! I think it's an interesting camera, and I like the rather odd looks - and if I don't like it I'm unlikely to lose money on it! All the best Jono 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 1, 2021 Share #499 Posted November 1, 2021 6 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: The metering is really the USP of the M5, otherwise you might as well get the smaller, lighter and IMHO prettier M4-P, which unlike the M5, can also take a Motor-M or as in my case, the steam punk M4-2 winder. Wilson Not in the opinion of Kenneth Wajda, in the short video I linked. He talks about several preferable M5 aspects. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 1, 2021 Share #500 Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeff S said: Not in the opinion of Kenneth Wajda, in the short video I linked. He talks about several preferable M5 aspects. Jeff With the winder M4-2 on my M4-P, I have more than enough to hold on to. I usually have one of the little Voigtlander VC2 meters on it, which is far more accurate than any of my Leica MR-4 meters. As I am usually taking reversal film, accurate metering is more important than with colour negative or B+W, when sunny 16 works just fine. Agfa Precisa, my favourite reversal film (I have considerable stocks of this in my freezer) is really quite narrow exposure latitude. The main reason I use my M5 is because it meters more reliably than either my CL or M7, particularly with a 28mm lens and is smaller and lighter than my R9 plus I don't have to remove it from my eye to meter, like I do with the M4-P. Wilson 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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