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M10 with 35 FLE at f/1.4

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M10 with 35 FLE at f/1.4

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I have no trouble loving lenses designed by both Peter Karbe and Walter Mandler. The Summilux-M 50mm ASPH was the lens that lured me into buying into the Leica M system. I decided to buy the lens, before I was certain that I would be buying a Leica camera to affix to the mount. (After crunching the numbers, I opted to buy an M10 camera.) At 28mm, I opted for the Elmarit-M Version 3. The things I shoot at 28mm are nothing like I would shoot 50mm, so, there is no conflict. Notably, I have never regarded the Summilix-M 50mm ASPH as “clinical,” in its rendering. One of my motivations in buying the Summilux ASPH, and adding the Leica M system, was because I had been concentrating upon producing quite clinical images, for forensic/evidentiary purposes, for 7+ years, while on duty, and very much wanted an antidote, for that, as a post-retirement self-gift.

When I recently decided to start shooting at 75mm, I opted to buy an APO Summicron 75mm ASPH, very much a Karbe lens. I had previously tested a pre-owned Summilux-M 75mm lens, at a nearby camera store, but it front-focused, quite noticeably, so, I did not buy it, therefore will not know if I might have grown to really love it. 

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M10M + ‘lux asph 35 (Wetzlar Edition)

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I miss my Karbe lenses a lot, especially the 50mm Summilux ASPH BC. I hope one day I can buy it back.

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M10 with 50mm Summilux ASPH

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M10-P Reporter and 35 FLE, of course wide open

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I found quite a significant amount of sample variations between the original 35 FLE summiluxes, mostly within core sharpness and chromatic aberration territory.
The one I own now is a champ in both. An amazing copy to shoot wide open, just like the Prophet Peter said.

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bought my 35 fle v2 last week. didnt have time to properly use it but one morning rain ceased and took this. now im in love with it

 

 

 

m10-r/35 FLE v2

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M11 with ‘lux asph 50

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M11

50mm summilux ASPH 

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BC version 

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On 1/27/2021 at 2:26 PM, Al Brown said:

I wrote to Leica for the ultimate list. They have yet to answer... fingers crossed.

 

And do we have it? 
[I searched but google knows not what I want …]

with the M10-R I more interested in this rendering! They bring out more than’ just’ sharpness. 

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20 minutes ago, Alberti said:

And do we have it? 
[I searched but google knows not what I want …]

with the M10-R I more interested in this rendering! They bring out more than’ just’ sharpness. 

There will be no list.
Leica Global Corporate Communications says Karbe lenses are the endeavour of the entire group and an individual cannot be singled out. Translated from German:

"Thank you very much for your inquiry. We are pleased that you are interested in doing an article on Leica lenses and the role of Peter Karbe. Unfortunately, I have to inform you that such an overview is not present. Lens development at Leica Camera AG is defined as group effort of a competent team of experts. And viewed as a team effort, the participation of individual colleagues, including the participation of Peter Karbe, is not explicitly recorded and documented in the various lens projects. Therefore we unfortunately cannot be of any help at this point and hope for your understanding. We wish you all the best and stay healthy!"

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I already expected that, but there is a way out:

why not make a list of the design philosophy 'ourselves'? By backward reasoning?

Well, then I have a picture of a 'Karbe Philosophy Lens', that is,

  • it has a same fingerprint in MTF wide-open to F11. I mean, all the lines stay the same all the time. Resolution remains the same, aberations do not pop up nor disappear, colour architecture is great.
  • There are several lense that would qualify. But though exceptional, the Summicron 50mm type IV/V does not qualify - the APO does and has been super modernized.

The Macro-Elmar 90mm, here in a rather close-up shot, fits the bill. A hommage to Elias Canetti it seems. 

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And another shot:

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I now have several lenses with this style (24, 75, 90mm) and yesterday I was a bit too late on the auction site for another one. 

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