padam Posted September 19, 2020 Share #1 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/VM-50mm1_5-2/index.html Focal length: 50mm Aperture ratio: 1: 1.5 Minimum aperture: F16 Lens configuration: 8 elements in 8 groups Angle of view: 46.3 ° Number of diaphragm blades: 12 Shortest focusing distance: 0.7m Rangefinder coupled: ∞ ～ 0.7m (depending on the camera) Maximum diameter x total length: 55.3 × 36.9mm Filter size: 43mm weight: Silver / Black 198g, Nickel Black Paint 255g Color: Silver / black, Nickel black paint (Exterior is made of brass, black part is black paint) coating: MC (multi-coating), SC (single coating) Lens hood: LH-6 (sold separately) Slightly smaller and lighter, but with more elements (and more aperture blades) compared to the previous version, SC or MC coating and a new paint option. Edited September 19, 2020 by padam 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 Hi padam, Take a look here Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f/1.5 ASPH II VM lens announcement. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
horosu Posted September 19, 2020 Share #2 Posted September 19, 2020 Looks very interesting, especially the brass version. Let's hope for a pleasant draw- I'm quite fed up with these high-contrast lenses that come out at the moment. Leica seems to have grasped that and have started re-issueing classic designs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monoxy Posted September 19, 2020 Share #3 Posted September 19, 2020 Oh well, 2 weeks ago I got a (current v1)black one second hand for 450$, and really really loving it. I enjoy the riggidy focus ring with its shortish focus throw as well. I wonder what are the improvements besides the size. SC&MC option is a really nice touch. Maybe less fringing wide open? Voigtlander is killing it by giving these superb alternatives for the m mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted September 19, 2020 Share #4 Posted September 19, 2020 Looks almost like a Zeiss Sonnar clone... 🤔 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 19, 2020 Share #5 Posted September 19, 2020 One thing that surprises me a little is 8 elements in 8 groups, which means the maximum number of air-to-glass interfaces and therefore the greatest opportunity for flare and internal reflections. The element coatings will be important in minimising these and if Cosina-Voigtlænder hasn't adequately sorted that out I would expect lower contrast pictures that are prone to veiling glare. @horosu Perhaps you'll have your wish of a more 'classic' rendering after all. Pete. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted September 19, 2020 Share #6 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) When you follow the link in the first post, the lenses are announced as "vintage line". Is it only the outer finish that is vintage line or the rendering? I don't like "classic rendering" at all. Would they really change the rendering dramatically from a version 1 to a version 2? They did not do this with the 35/1.4 where the version 2 was overall optimized for sharpness and less focus shift. Edited September 19, 2020 by tom.w.bn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted September 19, 2020 Share #7 Posted September 19, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 46 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: Looks almost like a Zeiss Sonnar clone... 🤔 Exactly my first thought 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted September 19, 2020 Share #8 Posted September 19, 2020 Don't panic guys. The other Classic-line CVs haven't been totally "vintage" in rendering. I don't need this new lens because I have the first version of 50 Nokton and it's great. But I seriously doubt the new one is going to be a super low-contrast lens either. It'll be a sensibly contrasty and sharp lens like the 21 f/3.5 or 35 f/2 Classic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 19, 2020 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, mike3996 said: Don't panic guys. The other Classic-line CVs haven't been totally "vintage" in rendering. I don't need this new lens because I have the first version of 50 Nokton and it's great. But I seriously doubt the new one is going to be a super low-contrast lens either. It'll be a sensibly contrasty and sharp lens like the 21 f/3.5 or 35 f/2 Classic. The lenses are available in either SC (single coating) or MC (Multiple coating) so the purchaser has the option whether to choose the SC version that's likely to produce lower contrast pictures or the MC that's likely to produce higher contrast pictures. It's not clear whether the MC option means MC on the front element only or the same on all of the 16 glass surfaces. Could be either way but it'll be interesting to see. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted September 19, 2020 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) It’s 8 elements in 7 groups. More compact than the earlier one. Edited September 19, 2020 by rramesh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 19, 2020 Share #11 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, rramesh said: It’s 8 elements in 7 groups. According to the text in the opening post it's 8 elements in 8 groups. Typo? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted September 19, 2020 Share #12 Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert Blanko said: Looks almost like a Zeiss Sonnar clone... 🤔 Well they are both produced by Cosina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom.w.bn Posted September 19, 2020 Share #13 Posted September 19, 2020 As long as there is no sonnar inside, everything is good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted September 19, 2020 Share #14 Posted September 19, 2020 vor einer Stunde schrieb tom.w.bn: When you follow the link in the first post, the lenses are announced as "vintage line". Is it only the outer finish that is vintage line or the rendering? As far as I understand Voigtlaender has two separate lines (in addition to their other lenses which are no special "line"): Vintage Line (like this lens): Vintage appearance, but modern lens design Classic Series (like 35/1.4): classic rendering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengai Posted September 19, 2020 Share #15 Posted September 19, 2020 which Leica lens can be compared with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted September 19, 2020 Share #16 Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, farnz said: According to the text in the opening post it's 8 elements in 8 groups. Typo? Pete. One can see from the lens configuration diagram that 2 elements are together in one group. Also correctly reflected in the Japanese version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 19, 2020 Share #17 Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, rramesh said: One can see from the lens configuration diagram that 2 elements are together in one group. Also correctly reflected in the Japanese version. It does look like a group of two elements I agree. Has it been confirmed anywhere that they're cemented into one group? (Not trying to be difficult, just interested.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monoxy Posted September 19, 2020 Share #18 Posted September 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, kengai said: which Leica lens can be compared with? The current version, nicknamed as Poorman's Summilux. As its image quality and character gets pretty close to the current 50mm 1.4 Summilux. Im curious to see how this will perform since they changed number of glass and aperture blades as well as size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted September 19, 2020 Share #19 Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, farnz said: It does look like a group of two elements I agree. Has it been confirmed anywhere that they're cemented into one group? (Not trying to be difficult, just interested.) Pete. The Japanese page indicated 7 groups 8 elements. レンズ構成 7群8枚 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradS Posted September 19, 2020 Share #20 Posted September 19, 2020 On the surface it kinda looks like it's cousin the Zeiss 50mm Sonnar ZM....but with 8 elements in 7 groups and one aspherical element, it is certainly not a Sonnar. I'm anxious to see some reviews and real world results from this optic. I'm especially curious to see a "shoot out" style comparison of it with several other similar optics... Although, I confess, I can see just by looking at the photos that I will not likely buy one - the C-V ergonomics (eg batwing aperture dial and the tiny focus stick thingy) are not my favorite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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