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On 9/23/2020 at 11:06 PM, Flu said:

Real question is whether or not the lens will have specific limited edition lens # engraved onto it. At least this keeps them a little bit more honest somewhat. And it would encourage more people to buy.

Considering that it gets some interest even in a small set of people like in this thread; I suspect that a "special edition" of 100 will sell by sure... and quickly... 😉 : so, to make a smart and correct move thay could do :

a) a chrome batch of 100 - with proper number, accompanying signed card etc...

b) then an "unlimited" one in black, cutting 1000-1500 Euros (room to maneuver, at this point)

Only drawback for purists...  😁 in such a way it would be the no limited version to be a real remake of the original, which was black only (chromes were prototypes)

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I wonder when the Noctilux 1.2 'Replica' hit the market, will the Original 50 Noctilux 1.2's price change a bit ?

In which direction, more or less expensive than now or just no change ?

Would the Replica's price level change that ?

 

Anyway, I don't care for the Original 'always too high' second hand price, ... just curious ( my collector's side ! ).

 

 

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16 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

will the Original 50 Noctilux 1.2's price change a bit ?

Not quite in same league, but the 5.6/28mm values have held up (I know it's LTM v M bayonet). Same with Thambar?

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43 minutes ago, pedaes said:

Not quite in same league, but the 5.6/28mm values have held up (I know it's LTM v M bayonet). Same with Thambar?

I think the issue maybe is that both of those originals (at least the ones I have looked at) are lower priced than the new versions...

If they release the rumoured replica I'll be very tempted 🙄

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21 minutes ago, NigelG said:

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If they release the rumoured replica I'll be very tempted 🙄

😇 I hope for this Noctilux 1.2 AA Replica since the day I purchased the Summaron-M 5.6/28.

Even if the M 28mm is not the very same as the original 2.8cm, not the same filter size E34 (in place of A36 which would be nice, but why not), the coating is "better done".

Since some time now, I try to save some money for "the Day".

Hoping that my saving would be enough when the "Noct-Day" comes.

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18 hours ago, a.noctilux said:

I wonder when the Noctilux 1.2 'Replica' hit the market, will the Original 50 Noctilux 1.2's price change a bit ?

In which direction, more or less expensive than now or just no change ?

Would the Replica's price level change that ?

 

Anyway, I don't care for the Original 'always too high' second hand price, ... just curious ( my collector's side ! ).

 

 

As you say, the old is already at stellar values... (I keep track of them time to time...not for buying but for the bitter tasting  of having sold mine 36 years ago at a "normal used price"... 🥶)

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5 hours ago, luigi bertolotti said:

As you say, the old is already at stellar values... (I keep track of them time to time...not for buying but for the bitter tasting  of having sold mine 36 years ago at a "normal used price"... 🥶)

Luigi - I know that bitter taste very well. Not for this lens but for many fine summilux lenses that I let go in my youth. I needed newer/faster slr's (and longer glass) for the direction of my work at that time. Some fine lenses - and yes that bitter taste.

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Having read this Bill Rosauer article

link found here:

 

So ...

I have some sceptical thinking concerning "onion rings" which may be present on the new Replica Noctilux with aspherical lenses

 

From the Bill's cited article, two images to be compared:

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The heritage of this lens is one thing but the notable smaller size compared to the other Noctis is another thing. So tempting!

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Does 1.2 or 1.4 matter? Does it really matter? At the moment I do not fully understand what the difference is compared to a Lux. Is it a lens for collectors? Is it the vintage look? To me it is not tempting yet. But I must say that I never had any Noctilux.

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9 minutes ago, M10 for me said:

Does 1.2 or 1.4 matter? Does it really matter? At the moment I do not fully understand what the difference is compared to a Lux. Is it a lens for collectors? Is it the vintage look? To me it is not tempting yet. But I must say that I never had any Noctilux.

Kind of answered the question yourself, it has a completely different look to any lens, it was so ahead of its time that it is still more than sharp enough on today's cameras. For a lens designed in 1966, that really says a lot.

So if you want this specific look, you can only get it like it by buying this. While this is subjective, it is also one of the most beautiful lenses ever created.

The Summilux is perceived as "crazy" compared to a bog standard common 50mm lens.

This lens makes the Summilux seem to be the common 50mm lens...

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vor 32 Minuten schrieb M10 for me:

Does 1.2 or 1.4 matter? Does it really matter? At the moment I do not fully understand what the difference is compared to a Lux. Is it a lens for collectors? Is it the vintage look? To me it is not tempting yet. But I must say that I never had any Noctilux.

The original Noctilux f1.2 was a milestone in Leica's lens development (first aspherical lens) and due to the uneconomic production costs they made not that many.

At least since the digital M era began, the 1.2 became some kind of holy grail in Leicas historical lens line up (next to the also hand grinded Summilux-M 1:1.4/35 »Aspherical«).

Bottom line: As long as there is no signifikant difference in the design of the optical elements it’s all about this heritage and the (barrel)design of the Noctilux f1.2. No photographic need makes use of  the difference between 1.4 and 1.2 IMHO. 

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