Noctilux 1:1.2/50 Asph. Limited Edition

[Al Brown]

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3 minutes ago, evikne said:

When I was a Canon user, I upgraded from f/1.4 to f/1.2, and that actually felt like a big change. Much bigger than you might think.

Half a stop is huge... said no girl ever. 😉

 

[M11 for me]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Al Brown:

Half a stop is huge... said no girl ever. 😉

 

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@evikne There were 85 and 50mm with 1.2. I never had those. I always worked with 1.4 or 2.0 (today mainly with Sigma Art 50 1.4 and Canon 135 2.0 on EOS 5D 4 for commissioned assignements). And as I never had (and still do not have) faster lenses than 1.4 I do nit really understand the difference. I imagine that a ½ LV does not matter for low light. It might matter for DOF. Well, how much? Do you say that you see any difference between these 2 apertures?

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[M11 for me]

Still in the meantime I understand the beauty and small size of that old design. But this is another thing.

[evikne]

13 minutes ago, M10 for me said:

@evikne There were 85 and 50mm with 1.2. I never had those. I always worked with 1.4 or 2.0 (today mainly with Sigma Art 50 1.4 and Canon 135 2.0 on EOS 5D 4 for commissioned assignements). And as I never had (and still do not have) faster lenses than 1.4 I do nit really understand the difference. I imagine that a ½ LV does not matter for low light. It might matter for DOF. Well, how much? Do you say that you see any difference between these 2 apertures?

First I had the 85/1.2, but when I later got the 50/1.2, that became my most used lens, because it was so much smaller and lighter. I owned these lenses because of the DOF, not because I needed them for low light. Regarding the Canon lenses, there is also a quality difference between the f/1.4 and f/1.2, because, as you know, the latter belongs to the professional L series. So this, in addition to the half stop extra speed, probably makes the difference even more prominent.

[M11 for me]

I envy you anyway how youcan focus wide open with your M10. You shoot beautiful pictures. I like your website.

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[lct]

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One metre MFD... Thanks no thanks.

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[bayernfan]

3 hours ago, lct said:

One metre MFD... Thanks no thanks.

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of your photos for the 50mm focal length, wide open or near wide open, are from 0.7m to 1m?

[lct]

Just now, bayernfan said:

Just out of curiosity, what percentage of your photos for the 50mm focal length, wide open or near wide open, are from 0.7m to 1m?

Just out of curiosity why wide open?

[bayernfan]

1 minute ago, lct said:

Just out of curiosity why wide open?

Hah, ok, at any aperture.  I figured a lens like this is meant to be shot at or near wide open.  Plenty of other great f/1.4 and f/2 lenses if you don't need that speed/character.

[a.noctilux]

13 minutes ago, bayernfan said:

Hah, ok, at any aperture.  I figured a lens like this is meant to be shot at or near wide open.  Plenty of other great f/1.4 and f/2 lenses if you don't need that speed/character.

In my decades of using Noctilux, I don't use at wide open much.

Wide open using is only when necessary, in most of situation I just use close down.

Using Noctilux wide open is kind of "new Noctilux users hobby" : look at this Noctilux look.

I like my Noctilux that way close down "a bit". ( so why I use more Summarit-M, now ! ).

Coming to this new Noctilux-M 1.2/50, I don't know if I'd use as before or close to wide open.

Time will tell.

[bayernfan]

Just now, a.noctilux said:

In my decades of using Noctilux, I don't use at wide open much.

Wide open using is only when necessary, in most of situation I just use close down.

Using Noctilux wide open is kind of "new Noctilux users hobby" : look at this Noctilux look.

I like my Noctilux that way close down "a bit". ( so why I use more Summarit-M, now ! ).

Coming to this new Noctilux-M 1.2/50, I don't know if I'd use as before or close to wide open.

Time will tell.

Fair enough.  I never shoot my Summicrons at f/2, so I can relate.

[lct]

8 minutes ago, bayernfan said:

Hah, ok, at any aperture.  I figured a lens like this is meant to be shot at or near wide open.  Plenty of other great f/1.4 and f/2 lenses if you don't need that speed/character.

Indeed DoF is too short on close ups and i have several 50mm lenses already but i don't buy lenses to use them at fast aperture only. If they do not allow me to shoot below 1m, i may agree if those are legacy lenses but on new ones, let alone expensive ones, thanks no thanks but it's just me .

[FrozenInTime]

How is the f/1.2  focus shift with aperture ? With the 50 f/1 Noctilux you were kind of forced to use f/1 or smaller than f/4 .