Kamyar Posted March 10, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 10, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey guys. I want buy voigtlander vm 21mm f1.4. What do you think about this. Do you have experience? Help please Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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james.liam Posted March 10, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 10, 2020 If you REALLY need f/1.4 on a 21mm, and don’t want to spend $7k on a new Leica... isn’t there a new 21/1.5 from one of the ‘Artisan’ characters out of China for 1/2 the cost of a Voigtlander? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamyar Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, james.liam said: If you REALLY need f/1.4 on a 21mm, and don’t want to spend $7k on a new Leica... isn’t there a new 21/1.5 from one of the ‘Artisan’ characters out of China for 1/2 the cost of a Voigtlander? Actually I read good reviews about 21m voigtlander 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted March 10, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Have you ever read a bad review? OK, the camera Lytro Illum was one. But I have good results with Voigtländer equipment. Edited March 10, 2020 by jankap 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted March 10, 2020 Share #5 Posted March 10, 2020 I have the older version, the 1.8 Ultron, and it’s excellent on both the M10 and on Sony bodies. I’d expect this 1.4 to be even better. I think there’s some brick wall test over at Fred Miranda, if you’re into these things. anyway, all recent Voigtlander releases are very good and a bargain compared to Leica’s offering 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted March 10, 2020 Share #6 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) vor 2 Stunden schrieb Simone_DF: I have the older version, the 1.8 Ultron, and it’s excellent on both the M10 and on Sony bodies. I’d expect this 1.4 to be even better. I think there’s some brick wall test over at Fred Miranda, if you’re into these things. anyway, all recent Voigtlander releases are very good and a bargain compared to Leica’s offering The Ultron 21/1.8 I have was not bad but the field curvature was in some constellations rather annoying. For instance at closer focusing distances you had a nicely blurred background in the middle while towards the edges the blur was significantly less. As my Ultron crashed to the pavement once I accidentally pushed the release button, I consider to replace this with the 21/1.4 and have some hope for improvement in said respect. Edited March 10, 2020 by Robert Blanko 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg1890 Posted March 11, 2020 Share #7 Posted March 11, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Honestly I'm not sure why someone feels the need for a fast ultra wide lens. The lens is not used for portraits mostly landscapes and architecture including cathedrals and buildings when I travel. Since its not used for portrait nor does a ultra wide angle have a shallow depth of field a solid cheaper slower lens suffices. After using both I now use a slower f3.5 and even a f4 is good. Also because the lens is UWA the photo can be shot at a slower shutter speed; 1/20 and with a camera that has IS even slower. I shot with a Nikon Z6 and 21/3.5 at 1/13 or even 1/10 with no issues. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted March 11, 2020 Share #8 Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ejg1890 said: The lens is not used for portraits What are you talking about? It's a great lens for full body portraits, when used carefully. Not every portrait is a head-shoulders one. The wide FL only balances out the camera blur. Subject motion still needs light so for a street shooter a f/1.4 will be most beneficial. Some nice samples about the glass. http://findingrange.com/2015/05/01/leica-21mm-summilux-m-f1-4-asph-review/ Edited March 11, 2020 by mike3996 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejg1890 Posted March 11, 2020 Share #9 Posted March 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, mike3996 said: What are you talking about? It's a great lens for full body portraits, when used carefully. Not every portrait is a head-shoulders one. The wide FL only balances out the camera blur. Subject motion still needs light so for a street shooter a f/1.4 will be most beneficial. Some nice samples about the glass. http://findingrange.com/2015/05/01/leica-21mm-summilux-m-f1-4-asph-review/ We may be getting caught up in word semantics, but I would consider the photos there as more along the line of street photography and yes, I use a UWA for street photography. But again shooting with a manual focus lens on street photography you want a greater depth of field as you a shoot a focus range since there is not the time to focus to capture a moment that goes by quickly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 11, 2020 Share #10 Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, ejg1890 said: We may be getting caught up in word semantics, but I would consider the photos there as more along the line of street photography and yes, I use a UWA for street photography. But again shooting with a manual focus lens on street photography you want a greater depth of field as you a shoot a focus range since there is not the time to focus to capture a moment that goes by quickly. I'm here to help you to widen your perspective. First of all, environmental portraits were and are taken with 21mm lenses. I recall one known photographer with Russar (impressive full body portraits and geometry around them), another one was using this focal length and took extreme close up portraits. Also, not all of us are Al Gore who lives in mansion and blasts thousands of dollars for lights throughout entire mansion. Many of us are dwellers and 21 is awesome focal length for interior group portraits. Second, keep in mind here are many film including M users. f1.5 makes a lot of sense on 21mm lens and for street photography. Some of us are aware of DOF and aperture relation and because of this are able to get quick shots even with 50 f1.5 lens @1.5. This is 50 1.5 lens @f1.5. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Third, despite all gear related forums rule - "buy latest, because it is greatest", not all of us following it here. M8,M9 LUF sub-forums are active in 2020. Those are cameras were f1.5 makes a lot of sense. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Third, despite all gear related forums rule - "buy latest, because it is greatest", not all of us following it here. M8,M9 LUF sub-forums are active in 2020. Those are cameras were f1.5 makes a lot of sense. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307314-what-do-you-think-about-voigtlander-21mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=3929421'>More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted March 12, 2020 Share #11 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, ejg1890 said: We may be getting caught up in word semantics, but I would consider the photos there as more along the line of street photography and yes, I use a UWA for street photography. But again shooting with a manual focus lens on street photography you want a greater depth of field as you a shoot a focus range since there is not the time to focus to capture a moment that goes by quickly. You are absolutely right, the shots there are not portraits. But I linked that to give context (some of the shots are portrait-y) to ponder about. Overgaard has also shot some portrait-style things with 21 lux. I also agree that street shooting is best done when you can shoot at f8, f11. But alas, I refuse to call it quits when the light diminishes. My 35 Cron takes a good shot at f/2 also, the style just has to adapt into anticipated fishing or something similar. The same applies to a fast UWA. I am happy with my new CV 21/3.5 Classic, but come night time the shutter speeds of 1/8 sec don't really help street shootin'. Edited March 12, 2020 by mike3996 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted March 13, 2020 Share #12 Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) please post some sample pictures taken by this lens (wide open) and some 100% cropped would be nice too. I'm very curious, thanks. Edited March 13, 2020 by jaeger Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted March 17, 2020 Share #13 Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 11:03 AM, Kamyar said: Hey guys. I want buy voigtlander vm 21mm f1.4. What do you think about this. Do you have experience? Help please My lens arrived last week, I think. I love it so far. Been using it on my Sony. Haven’t mounted it on my M but have my SL. Good with it too. If you need a fast 21, don’t hesitate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsuitus Posted March 20, 2020 Share #14 Posted March 20, 2020 When I needed a lens faster than my Zeiss 21mm f/2.8, I purchased the Leica 21mm f/1.4 for over $4,000. I wish the new $1,000 Voigtländer 21mm f/1.4 lens had been available when I was looking. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 21mm Lenses by Narsuitus, on Flickr 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 21mm Lenses by Narsuitus, on Flickr ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307314-what-do-you-think-about-voigtlander-21mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=3935486'>More sharing options...
epand56 Posted March 21, 2020 Share #15 Posted March 21, 2020 Kamyar, I have the CV 21/1.8 and it is a wonderful lens. I don't think that it performs much less than a Summilux. I think that if the 1.4 has the same qualities of mine plus one stop more, it's sure a lens you have to go for. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted March 28, 2020 Share #16 Posted March 28, 2020 Am 10.3.2020 um 22:18 schrieb Robert Blanko: The Ultron 21/1.8 I have was not bad but the field curvature was in some constellations rather annoying. For instance at closer focusing distances you had a nicely blurred background in the middle while towards the edges the blur was significantly less. As my Ultron crashed to the pavement once I accidentally pushed the release button, I consider to replace this with the 21/1.4 and have some hope for improvement in said respect. Today my Voigtländer 21/1.4 arrived. 🙂 The field curvature is much less pronounced, so a big improvement in said respect. As my M10 is about 1400km away („thanks“ to Corona), I had to use my Sony A7RII with adapter. I am curious about the first pictures. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted April 5, 2020 Share #17 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Yesterday I made small hike in the Bavarian mountains with my Voigtländer Nokton 21 on my Sony A7RII and after watching the photos I am quite satisfied. Even at f 1.4 very reasonable results, cf. the attached photo which was taken at f 1.4. Bearing in mind that the corners should according to my general experience slightly improve on my Nikon Z7 or my M10 for wide angle lenses, I am really looking forward to using this on my M10. However, in view of the Covid c**p this would likely take more than two weeks… One thing I noticed: it is recommendable to use the lens hood and to avoid excessive stray light hitting the front lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 5, 2020 by Robert Blanko trying to upload photo 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307314-what-do-you-think-about-voigtlander-21mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=3947282'>More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted April 5, 2020 Share #18 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Well, apparently the upload did not work, so I will check and retry… After shrinking the photo it worked. Edited April 5, 2020 by Robert Blanko 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hossegor Posted April 19, 2020 Share #19 Posted April 19, 2020 Robert did you have the chance to shoot it a bit more ? would love to see some more samples. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted April 19, 2020 Share #20 Posted April 19, 2020 Today I had the chance to take some photos with the Nokton in downtown Munich. Due to Corona only very few people were obstructing the view. This was taken at f8 or f11, if I remember correctly: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307314-what-do-you-think-about-voigtlander-21mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=3957113'>More sharing options...
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